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Old 02-04-07, 02:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Preventing power from going to "auto"?

Hi all,

I'm having a weird problem in that whenever I (let's say) remove the battery from my X51v and then replace the battery and subsequently reset the device OR soft reset the device, the processor speed configuration (in the POWER system applet) reverts back to "AUTO"

This is extremely troublesome for users of XCPUScaler like me, since XCPUScalar crashes within seconds when this setting is on auto.

Does anyone know a way to fix this? :(

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The setting is always AUTO after a hard reset, soft reset or battery change out.
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May I ask a question, just to learn; but is there a reason to not have your CPU set to Auto? On my laptop I have my Piii set to Dynamic Switching and sometimes my 900Mhz is idling at 104Mhz. It does trottle up on demand, but I see this switching as a good thing.
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Originally Posted by purcy
May I ask a question, just to learn; but is there a reason to not have your CPU set to Auto? On my laptop I have my Piii set to Dynamic Switching and sometimes my 900Mhz is idling at 104Mhz. It does trottle up on demand, but I see this switching as a good thing.
This is extremely troublesome for users of XCPUScaler like me, since XCPUScalar crashes within seconds when this setting is on auto.

XCPUScalar crashes when this setting is on auto!
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I just did a soft reset to see if power management reverts back to auto. It stays with the last known setting, meaning it doesn't revert to auto. Just chiming in. Anyway, goodluck finding a solution to your problem.
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I just did a soft reset to see if power management reverts back to auto. It stays with the last known setting, meaning it doesn't revert to auto. Just chiming in. Anyway, goodluck finding a solution to your problem.

Trying taking the batteries out and putting them back in. The settings revert.

Even with changing the registry setting to "File" from "hive", it still happens.

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This guy is having the same problem:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=146386
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Originally Posted by STi Sev
Trying taking the batteries out and putting them back in. The settings revert.

Even with changing the registry setting to "File" from "hive", it still happens.
But not after a soft reset as you mentioned above. The capacitor probably is designed only to keep time and date settings for a while.

I haven't tried to change the registry. Give me the registry path, I'll experiment with it.
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His problem is different from yours. His power setting revert after off-to-on.

In the meantime, you can try remedy your problem by automating your device at startup. At start up automate kill xcpuscalar process, turn processor to max, run xcpuscalar process by using SKSchema.
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Hi dvmed,

Correct. It's not after a soft reset, but it does happens after a) battery removal b) full power down (hold power button down)

dvmed,
The hive to fle registry setting doesn't work; it is a setting found in Tweaks2K2, but I believe can also be found on the net.

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Have you tried Anton Tomovs Pocket Hack Master (similar program as XCPUScalar) to see if it has the same problem? Just throwing out a possibility, I don't know if it will help, sorry. It could be that it is able to set you cpu to manual for you.
http://www.antontomov.com/web/produc...r&cat=overview

The only other alternative is to contact the developers of XCPUScalar or the above tool...

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Hmmm, I have an idea but is late now. will test it and see if i can do anything in the morning.
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The only other alternative is to contact the developers of XCPUScalar or the above tool...
They are aware of the issue; see this:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7325

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Support for VGA / Quasi VGA PXA270 XSCALE PDA's:
If your PDA has its own power setting, please set it to "Maximum Performance" or a setting that is not "Auto" to prevent conflicts with XCPUScalar.

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Anton Tomovs Pocket Hack Master
I think I tried this program a while back, but the max speed ended up being the same as the one listed in XCPUScalar (728 or whatever). In addition, I love XCPUScalar's CPU speed monitor, since it allows me to see how much of the CPU is being used and how fast the CPU is clocked.

Mokubai, I really appreciate your help. Any suggestions you could provide are appreciated.
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My issue with what is going on here is that the settings are persistent over a soft-reset, but are lost on a cold boot. I cannot see where the setting could be being stored for it to survive and I can only think of two possibilities.

1) it is stored in some "Safe" memory location that is always reserved for the purpose early in the windows startup to make sure that it is the same location every time
2) it is stored in some part of the registry that is referenced by they boot registry hive and so is read/write across soft resets but is read-only across cold boots (using something similar to 1.)

In the HKLM\init registry key there is a key that executes a coldboot.exe which could be the program that detects a cold boot and sets up the system accordingly, but without more in depth knowledge of WinCE programming and debugging there is very little I can do with it, I wouldn't recommend deleting the key unless you don't mind doing a hard reset as it may stop your device from booting.

I am interested in finding a solution, but I am a bit limited without having access to debug tools or proper knowledge of how to use them I am a bit useless...
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Someone in another forum suggested that XCPUScalar may be crashing because it overclocks using nonstandard figures in overclocking the CPU.

No idea if PocketHackMaster has the same behavior; part of the reason of what I like about XCPUScalar is the CPU %/CPU speed display.
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Well, if you want to give Pocket Hack Master a try and retain the cpu meter you can try this one, I've used it in the past...

http://personales.ya.com/beemer/xscalemonitor.htm

I would suggest Dogfoods Regtweak for cpu monitoring, but it doesn't handle overclocked devices very well...

Sorry if I'm trying to help in a roundabout fashion, it's not really addressing the main issue but working around it.
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