What is the BEST MP3 Player for 51V

[Mokubai]

What I saw of iPlay I did actually like, it seemed a very good and capable player. What I hated was their attitude.

I completely agree with you about how they go about things, you cannot expect people to buy a product if they have no way to actually be able to buy it.

I honestly thought that iPlay could be *the* music player, if only they let people try and use it, it was a good, fast and possibly nice player. My free alternative is TCPMP which "only" has simple playlist management but is a good all-round player.

[unkalledfor]

I (amazingly) have access to the site... the funny thing is I can access it from home and not from work.. and I live in the US... go figure...

Here is the link from the site..
http://40th.com/dl/1/ce/40iplaycomedd.zip

IF that doesn't work here is a mirror that should work for everybody...
http://putstuff.putfile.com/53467/7137483

Thanks for mirroring the file. Although I'm sure it's in direct contravention to their terms and conditions for giving you access to the site and app.
I'm unsure whether it's worth installing this though since I'm under the impression that even if I want to, I won't be allowed to buy the application. Can anyone confirm?

What I saw of iPlay I did actually like, it seemed a very good and capable player. What I hated was their attitude.

I completely agree with you about how they go about things, you cannot expect people to buy a product if they have no way to actually be able to buy it.

I honestly thought that iPlay could be *the* music player, if only they let people try and use it, it was a good, fast and possibly nice player. My free alternative is TCPMP which "only" has simple playlist management but is a good all-round player.

You mean like his reply about MP3Gain 'diluting' your MP3's, which would cause all sorts of problems, so you should go and buy HIS solution instead? Well, PocketPlayer works pretty well for me, and their tech support's a lot more helpful (not that I've really needed it more than once, to get my Serial # back).

It kinda reminded me of Microsoft's attitude towards users (you're all thieves, so we'll make sure you can't steal the product by being very restrictive) without the near-monopoly that allows the company to actually get away with it. ;)

As far as players go, I suggest PockerPlayer - it's a little bit of a CPU hog, but not as much as WinVibe, and it supports AVRCP just fine.

I (amazingly) have access to the site... the funny thing is I can access it from home and not from work.. and I live in the US... go figure...

Why? Because your attitude is like all warez jockeys, where the world owes you. Yes, this is from you:

Brand: Dell
Model: Axim x51v
Comnt: you suck

Most, I'd say nearly everyone, acts civil. There are the exceptions, and these are pretty much always warez jockeys looking but can't get their stuff. You can spot them a mile away. Maybe when you grow up you'll understand.

As for Melvyn, I've never heard of you or from you, but you can be sure ranting here won't get you anywhere. You aren't quite i the same league as the Menn. guy, who I have (still) never gotten any sort of email from, contrary to what he claims, but then I think he just likes to complain. The miami guy, now he's a lost case. haha No hope at all for him.

[Mokubai]

You mean like his reply about MP3Gain 'diluting' your MP3's, which would cause all sorts of problems, so you should go and buy HIS solution instead? Well, PocketPlayer works pretty well for me, and their tech support's a lot more helpful (not that I've really needed it more than once, to get my Serial # back).

It kinda reminded me of Microsoft's attitude towards users (you're all thieves, so we'll make sure you can't steal the product by being very restrictive) without the near-monopoly that allows the company to actually get away with it. ;)

I've been *trying* to give him some benefit of doubt, but my patience is wearing thin. His "solution" of using his player that supports ReplayGain is a crock of s**t. His player is useless on an PocketPC device as it has no touchscreen support, only the d-pad works. His argument that mp3gain is rubbish because his player supports some standard that he made up while browsing for "hawt ch1cks!" and that mp3gain *will* corrupt your files despite it having been tested without problems for a couple of years astounded me. Now he's saying that the algorithm that mp3gain uses is probably rubbish, despite it being the same as ReplayGain that other programs use (though others don't actually alter files).

Despite his claims mp3gain does actually work for what I want...

Why? Because your attitude is like all warez jockeys, where the world owes you. Yes, this is from you:

Brand: Dell
Model: Axim x51v
Comnt: you suck

Why do you even post here 40th? Seriously, why? If we're all warez d00ds and l33t hackers why do you keep bringing your products to out attention?

I honestly don't think you owe me anything, nada, zippo. I just think you need to drop the underdog attitude, your stuff isn't even worth pirating. I've managed to try an old demo of iPlay 4 and for the life of me I cannot get it to stop popping between tracks, played with all the settings and no dice. Do you close and re-open the audio device between tracks? No other program has this problem so what are you doing differently?

As for Melvyn, I've never heard of you or from you, but you can be sure ranting here won't get you anywhere.

Firstly, why should you have heard from me? Here's how it works with all other PPC software:
1. Go to site of programmer / company.
2. Be greeted with a "Welcome to our site" homepage.
3. View information about the product/s and screenshots.
4. Usually you can download a trial. On rare occasions you have to just buy the app.

You'll notice that for steps 1-4 there is no step like this:
Write to the company so that they have "heard of you".

Your site is unique. Sometimes that's a good thing. In this case it is not.

I have not been "ranting" here. I've been mocking. The difference is that I find your approach to business to be so counterproductive that it's funny. If you won't let users access your site or your product unless you've "heard of them" then your market share is going to be limited to the size of your group of friends.

[jevans64]

I've used Pocket Music since version 2. It is a fairly good player with good sound quality but there are some players that might be slightly better. I really didn't notice a difference between the ones I tested. Anyway. This player is very similar in function to the WinAMP Classic player for the PC and you can use Classic WinAMP skins so the transition from WinAMP to PM is nil. I believe you can use WinAMP playlists and creating them is easy since you can use the add/delete buttons at the bottom in the Playlist area just like on WinAMP. There is a 10-band EQ with presets and user customizable.

There is a free version but there might be some limits placed on it or nag screens but I think it is a full version but won't provide any support unless you have the paid version. I don't know because I own the full version and I am at version 4.2.5. As a matter of fact, that is probably why I own it now. I think I bought it so I could submit bug fixes and feature requests : which ACTUALLY made it into future versions.

PocketMind has done a lot of work to reduce power consumption and CPU load since version 2. Version 4.2 and up runs much better than previous versions. The Spectrum Analyzer still lags a bit but at least it works.

[speedy1979]

I've used Pocket Music since version 2. It is a fairly good player with good sound quality but there are some players that might be slightly better. I really didn't notice a difference between the ones I tested. Anyway. This player is very similar in function to the WinAMP Classic player for the PC and you can use Classic WinAMP skins so the transition from WinAMP to PM is nil. I believe you can use WinAMP playlists and creating them is easy since you can use the add/delete buttons at the bottom in the Playlist area just like on WinAMP. There is a 10-band EQ with presets and user customizable.

There is a free version but there might be some limits placed on it or nag screens but I think it is a full version but won't provide any support unless you have the paid version. I don't know because I own the full version and I am at version 4.2.5. As a matter of fact, that is probably why I own it now. I think I bought it so I could submit bug fixes and feature requests : which ACTUALLY made it into future versions.

PocketMind has done a lot of work to reduce power consumption and CPU load since version 2. Version 4.2 and up runs much better than previous versions. The Spectrum Analyzer still lags a bit but at least it works.

Just a headsup. Pocketmusic has updated to version 4.3.4. Or at least that's what I have right now. :approve:

Goes to pocketmind and checks...................

It would be great if pocketmusic had some way of letting us know they have released updates; or maybe they want us to check.

Interestingly Pocketgear has version 4.3.2. Not that it matters much just noticed that.

I have 4.3.5 of Pocket Music......features I am waiting for are A2DP and for some reason u can't use the directional pad to navigate the menus. The button mapping is wacked out. Overall I like it though.

Unrelated to this thread, my favorite was MortPlayer but I can't use it because with Yahoo Unlimited u have to use WMAs and Mort's doesn't play WMAs.....last I checked.

I love MortPlayer too. I'm also intrigued by Pocket Music. Thanks for the introduction.

It would be great if pocketmusic had some way of letting us know they have released updates; or maybe they want us to check.

Since it's available at Handango and since Handango have the "Handango Watch" alerts system there is an automated way for you to be informed about updates.

[unkalledfor]

Why? Because your attitude is like all warez jockeys, where the world owes you. Yes, this is from you:

Brand: Dell
Model: Axim x51v
Comnt: you suck

Most, I'd say nearly everyone, acts civil. There are the exceptions, and these are pretty much always warez jockeys looking but can't get their stuff. You can spot them a mile away. Maybe when you grow up you'll understand.

As for Melvyn, I've never heard of you or from you, but you can be sure ranting here won't get you anywhere. You aren't quite i the same league as the Menn. guy, who I have (still) never gotten any sort of email from, contrary to what he claims, but then I think he just likes to complain. The miami guy, now he's a lost case. haha No hope at all for him.

How am I a warez jockey for posting a direct link to the file hosted on YOUR site.. It's not a cracked version.. it's the same DEMO you have.. I just mirrored it so other people having problems getting on your site could have access to the demo...

Come on man, you are telling us to grow up, but you're the one acting like everyone is out to get you.. What are you trying to prove?? because the only thing you've shown everyone here is that you have horrible reading comprehension. Most of your replies have nothing to do with the original posts.

Bottom line is...Your posts make no sense. You make no sense. Shut up.

How am I a warez jockey for posting a direct link to the file hosted on YOUR site.. It's not a cracked version.. it's the same DEMO you have.. I just mirrored it so other people having problems getting on your site could have access to the demo...

Come on man, you are telling us to grow up, but you're the one acting like everyone is out to get you.. What are you trying to prove?? because the only thing you've shown everyone here is that you have horrible reading comprehension. Most of your replies have nothing to do with the original posts.

Bottom line is...Your posts make no sense. You make no sense. Shut up.

Don't even bother arguing - if you do anything other than email him money for the full version of the program, you're considered a pirate.. or so his posts suggest. He has half the world blocked from the website for one reason or another; and after that, I ended up going Pocket Player even if it's less efficient, because I got good tech support there and the product had a decent trial period so I could get hooked on it.

Like I said, I'm a Pocket Player man. About the only thing it's really missing is lower CPU usage, in my books.

How am I a warez jockey for posting a direct link to the file hosted on YOUR site.. It's not a cracked version.. it's the same DEMO you have.. I just mirrored it so other people having problems getting on your site could have access to the demo...

You've missed the point. In a normal case the developer would be grateful that you're helping people "having problems". In the bizzarro world of 40th Floor though, non-US users aren't "having problems" - they're being blocked deliberately. They categorically don't want these users to access the product and you're circumventing that.

[Mokubai]

I've finally bitten the bullet and paid outright for Coreplayer. I have to admit if 40th wasn't so obnoxious I would have considered paying him to get some support for the software he claims is the best.

As it is Coreplayer seems very nice, CPU usage is comparable with TCPMP, perhaps even a bit less which in my books completely removes any reason I had for looking at iPlay in the first place... With the aximsite discount it was $17.45, or about £9-10 which for me is a good price for a piece of software I use almost every day. The 1.04 version you download from mobihand has very nice playlist support (though it can be a bit slow with 400+ items) and pretty much does everything TCPMP could do with the benefits of looking good and having commercial support.

It was the initial problems that put me off Coreplayer, no playlist and possible "phone home" issues coupled with what I suspected might lead to software bloat slowing it down. But I am happy to say that I can see no real issues with it.

Coreplayer certainly deserves the money as it can play so many formats, more so that iPlay which is a one trick horse with absolutely awful social skills.