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Old 02-23-07, 09:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have searched and searched. Reverse Pass-Thru.

Hello, first.

I know this is most likely asked alot. But, I have searched high and low for the a solution to this. The forums turned up 19 pages for "reverse passthru" in all manners of different search keywords.

So, can anyone tell me if I can reverse pass-thru. Hook up a not connected PC/Laptop to an Axim X51 and obtain internet through the Axim wifi? I have been trying for days. Bridging, Sharing, Sharing and Bridging. Nothing. I have Activesync 4.2, X51, and the dock and usb. Plus a couple of not connected pc's.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-23-07, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, you could get dotPocket, get a remoted image of the Axim on the desktop, connect to the Internet and use that mechanism to browse. Not exactly what you wanted, I know, but it will work.
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Old 02-23-07, 09:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, you could get dotPocket, get a remoted image of the Axim on the desktop, connect to the Internet and use that mechanism to browse. Not exactly what you wanted, I know, but it will work.
Wow, that was ingenius. Though not what I desire at all. I would rather just use the Axim at that point. But, brilliant non the less. I would have never thought of that.

Thanks, for the quick reply. But.. my question still remains and my search continues.
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Old 02-24-07, 10:26 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You need to somehow get the Axim to use Bluetooth DUN and let the PC dial into it. There's no NAT support in WM so from what I can see there's no way to use the PAN profile to share the connection.
I've never seen this done, but I too would like to see how if someone can make it work, albeit a 3rd party program if necessary.
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Old 02-25-07, 04:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So if I understand right, you want to connect your Axim's Wifi to some hotspot, then allow your computer to use the Axim's Wifi?

Looks like you're docking the Axim on the cradle. I remember reading somewhere that the Axim shuts down the wifi connection when it's docked, but this may have been isolated. If not, and it is possible to keep connected to wifi while it's docked and connected to ActiveSync, all you'd need to do is run a proxy server on the Axim, and set your laptop up to use that proxy connection.

The only issue here is, I don't know offhand of any proxy software made to run on a mobile device. If this is the case, then I may have to put my programming skills to good use and come up with one. I'm familiar enough with proxy programming (I've programmed one for the PC) that porting it to run on a mobile with the .NET Compact Framework would be rather trivial (not to mention free).
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Old 02-25-07, 05:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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There's already a proxy server for mobile devices. Runs on JVM, it's Menneisyys' HTTPSnoopProxy. You're right, Axim shuts down the wifi when docked, but it's not an isolated case, it's a function of connmgr.exe. If you disable connmgr.exe (using Airfix), you can get a valid IP address to your WLAN adapter, problem is that it disables the internet as well. I've tried it some time back, I get a valid local IP address from the rndis adapter as well as the WLAN adapter, so theorectically it might be possible. The question is, other than the two problems mentioned above, will ActiveSync allow it? I've done a lot of internet sharing, ppc wifi/proxy to (multiple)ppc via bluetooth pan; ppc wifi/proxy to computer via bluetooth pan; ppc dun/proxy to computer via wifi adhoc, but I can't seem to do it with ActiveSync (docked). Maybe Menneissys can help us with this one.

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Old 02-25-07, 09:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lycaon View Post
I remember reading somewhere that the Axim shuts down the wifi connection when it's docked, but this may have been isolated. If not, and it is possible to keep connected to wifi while it's docked and connected to ActiveSync, all you'd need to do is run a proxy server on the Axim, and set your laptop up to use that proxy connection.
That's strange. Mine has always worked.
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Originally Posted by blkballoon925 View Post
That's strange. Mine has always worked.

Wifi is still on, it's the wifi network connection that's disabled.
Check your IP address from WLAN utility, as soon as you dock it (sync), IP turns to 0.0.0.0 . It's either that or your connmgr.exe is disabled by default which is not how microsoft intended it.

http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html

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With the release of ActiveSync 4.0, mobile users everywhere suffered a great loss. Namely, you can no longer maintain a network connection while synced. According to Microsoft, they removed this useful feature because some corporate customers had thought it was a security risk.
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There is always one post of the kind I'm going to post, but had to say it anyway, thought it really applied here...:

"Couldn't you get a cheap Wi-Fi usb dongle?" You would get G speed (where available), plus "native" connection (instead of proxing over the Axim), etc, etc.

forgive for posting that... :D
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I got 3 - 802.11G usb dongles. It's the challenge of making the concept work that is important. The chance of learning something new is priceless.
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Yes... I understand, I am = as you... :)

Just that was the reason why I said that I hated to do that post, but I had to. :D

But if it helps, if you think that you are actually overkilling something that wouldn't be better than the dongles themselves, then it may not be worth it. If it was better than a dongle then, by all means, yes; but since it'd probably worse (PDA overhead, setting proxy on everytime on PDA, slower bandwidth, etc).... ;)
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I totally understand your point. But it's not a matter of which is a better solution, it's a matter of "can it be done". That's why the title of the thread is the way it is and not something like "which is better, wireless dongle or activesync reverse pass-thru". The concept (internet sharing, not AS reverse pass-thru) is not overkilling something. This may be of practical use and this has been used in practical situations already. A wifi dongle is only useful when you're using the 802.11 protocol to access the internet. Example. If your only access to the internet is thru a bluetooth modem (whether GPRS or dial-up)? Two devices can't connect at the same time, so you use one device to act as a proxy for the other devices and all of you can access the internet at the same time. There are a lot of ways to skin a cat but it all depends on which resources are available to you.
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Originally Posted by airscanner.com
With the release of ActiveSync 4.0, mobile users everywhere suffered a great loss. Namely, you can no longer maintain a network connection while synced. According to Microsoft, they removed this useful feature because some corporate customers had thought it was a security risk.
Really wish Microsoft would separate the corporate stuff out into a seperate install instead of screwing over people that use certain features. I, for one, would appreciate the ability to sync wirelessly. I'd be able to sync from work across the street instead of having to wait til I get home. :)
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My Toshiba e740 running Wm2002 could sync wirelessly. It was awesome. I had my PC setup to fetch email's off a server and update weather, rss feeds, etc locally.

It was a real disappointment that I later found out with the Axim and its WM5 and ActiveSync 4.1 +
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With ActiveSync 4.5:

With the PDA DISCONNECTED, go to File, Connection Settings. It has an option called "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop." Hope this helps!
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