I hope these crab mentality guys doesn't multiply when exposed to water. It's sad enough that WM6 is not allowed here, but leave Widcomm alone. To those who want to "play" mod MYOB.
WM6 is allowed if it is a legal update from Dell, hacks need not apply
Makuu: given it was in the ROM as a default entry method, it probably did NOT require a key, which made it warez. Ditto the two HTC programs, which aren't distributed publically under normal circumstances.
Dvmed: like I said in my first post, you can Google if you want it. Nobod here is monitoring your PC. The difference between this and the Broadcomm stack is that the latter is unlikely to brick your Axim, and uses publically available software, and is easily undone. Given AximSite is seen as an authoritative resource by many, I can see why they're leery of having a homebrew ROM that its author acknowledges as incomplete and buggy... especially when it contains licensed software distributed without permission.
In the end, this is THEIR board,and they have final say over what's acceptable, and what's not. Whine like the spoiled little girls you are if you want, but it's part of what you agreed to when you joined this privately run forum, which Chris is paying the server costs for.
It's ironic that those who accuse others of 'playing mods' are those who fail to accept the mods rulings.
The mods here do a difficult job, and I've always been impressed by their integrity, honesty, professionalism and fairness.
If in doubt check the aximsite rules.
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It's ironic that those who accuse others of 'playing mods' are those who fail to accept the mods rulings.
The mods here do a difficult job, and I've always been impressed by their integrity, honesty, professionalism and fairness.
If in doubt check the aximsite rules.
Well said....:approve: I might ad that when you join you agree to the terms, conditions AND rules.:rolling:
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I hope these crab mentality guys doesn't multiply when exposed to water. It's sad enough that WM6 is not allowed here, but leave Widcomm alone. To those who want to "play" mod MYOB.
Oh, I don't "play" mod. I am one.
As an Aximsite moderator, it is my job to protect the integrity of the site.
If you wish to provide links to software that is normally only available from a vendor for a fee, it is incumbent on YOU to explain why doing so is legal.
As a side note, the Widomm stack is freely downloadable from HP.
As a member of the Aximsite staff, but not a mod, I can tell you what a difficult job it is to be a mod. There are many threads that are judgment calls that put the mods in untenable positions. I think they do a fantastic job here at Aximsite.
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I think if the site wasn't so well moderated a lot of us wouldn't bother coming back all the time. They all seem to be intelligent and articulate with a fairly balanced view. I have only been asked once (nicely) to ease up a bit and that was because of that damned e-t. He was really able to get under my skin at times.
In addition I think most of the posters are pretty well disciplined, it is not often someone steps over the line
In fact as I'm typing this I'm thinking that we're all making the mods. job way to easy. I might post a link to my pirated copy of Vista that has been tricked up to run on handhelds and iPods.
Just to see if they're awake.
My vote is with the moderators too, it's a thankless job trying to herd us lot and they do a damn fine job of keeping these forums pleasant, flame free and on the right side of the law.
The Widcomm stack is of dubious legality, as it is generally licenced in a similar way to an operating system, but the files are a lot more freely available and can be found in some form or another on every major pda manufacturers site. In theory the Widcomm stack is perfectly legal for those who own an X50 or earlier device as Dell would have licenced the stack for use on the X50 series. The X51 is not completely legitimate as it has never had the Widcomm stack on it as supplied by Dell.
WM6 is not dubious in the least, it is protected by being legally obtained *only* from the company that manufactures your pda, Microsoft will not supply it directly to you and if/when it is released it is likely to be payware with both Dell and Microsoft making money.
I don't envy the moderators, they have a difficult job doing what they do, in their position I would probably have taken down the Widcomm threads as well as they are of highly ambiguous legality.
Hurrah for the moderators!
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I can't say I really fit in here like I seem to over at Brighthand when it comes to the community, but I've found Aximsite quite the benefactor on many occasions, particularly regarding the SD Image Loader and the Broadcom BT stack for WM5. I'd hate to see it go.
As a member of the Aximsite staff, but not a mod, I can tell you what a difficult job it is to be a mod. There are many threads that are judgment calls that put the mods in untenable positions. I think they do a fantastic job here at Aximsite.
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I agree the mods are doing a fantastic job at Aximsite. And not only they give the success to Aximsite, but also they give a Line hat is followed by other websites. I am being a moderator myself in at a french ppc forum. And In some ways it helps us to follow the decisions taken here at Aximsite. I myself would not have allowed the thread on the widcomm stack. But it's a sticky here, then I didn't hesitate to refer to it, because moderator allowed it here.
So I want to thanks all the moderator here, not only they are doing a great job here and they did create a website reference in the ppc world. But also they make our life easier as other ppc website moderator by following the Aximsite Line. ;)
Hmmm. the xda developers' forum took out their links a couple of weeks ago at the request of Microsoft, with whose stance you may or may not agree.
However, for my tuppenceworth, I believe that such a stance should not prevent discussion of copyright issues - I had some really good feedback on this site over some stuff I was publishing, and the discussions (no flames, just common sense) helped me.
Let free speech exist, but also let copyright be acknowledged! Sometimes there's a fine line to be drawn, but at least a forum like this lets people air their ideas and perhaps alter their views from 'publish and be damned' to 'oh bugger, I've published, was I really right to do so? And should I pull some of my stuff from the net?'
As an Aximsite moderator, it is my job to protect the integrity of the site.
If you wish to provide links to software that is normally only available from a vendor for a fee, it is incumbent on YOU to explain why doing so is legal.
As a side note, the Widomm stack is freely downloadable from HP.
I've been on this site for a long time now not to know that you are a mod. I was talking about the one who created this thread and those people who try to decide for themselves if widcomm is legal or not, and comparing it to the legality of the hacked WM6. So don't take my post out of context.
To Psionandy, I don't need to know the rules in this site to know who are playing mods as much as I don't need to be a thief to know one. Just to put irony in it's proper place.
I've been on this site for a long time now not to know that you are a mod. I was talking about the one who created this thread and those people who try to decide for themselves if widcomm is legal or not, and comparing it to the legality of the hacked WM6. So don't take my post out of context.
To Psionandy, I don't need to know the rules in this site to know who are playing mods as much as I don't need to be a thief to know one. Just to put irony in it's proper place.
Mod names show up in green, IIRC - that's an easy way to check. The Widcomm drivers were released publically by HP, among others; RESCO KEYBOARD PRO is not a publically-released application, nor are the HTC X-Button Task Manager or the HTC Home program - those aren't distributed outside of the ROM images, unlike the Broadcomm/Widcomm software. The Mods say that the Broadcomm software is acceptable because it's publically available outside of a ROM image and because it won't be a likely cause of hardware bricking. End of story.
On the one hand, you say that you don't know who the mods are... yet you say you don't need to know the rules or who's a mod to know who's 'playing mod'... when you accused a mod of 'playing' one. Well done - your logic meets Eric12341's criteria... which, unfortunately, is an accreditation not accepted anywhere else on Earth, just like those paper PhD companies' accreditations aren't. ;)
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