Why to Avoid dell in the future

[Numus]

First of all the current administration has very little to do with companies moving overseas. The tax code in America is mostly what is responsible for that. If we as a country had the will to implement the "Fair Tax", most ,if not all of these corporations would move back to their own shores along with many other country's companies.
We would also lose the IRS and wouldn't that be cool?

actually i believe the current administration has a lot to do with it when they allowed these corporations to move oversees without harsh penalties.. Just like haliburton is moving overseas to dubai. They still are calling themselves a "US" company and keeping an office in dallas, but why then do they need to make a move to dubai out of the country? I think there is a little more going on then what they want us to believe..
How about Ford and chevy.. you know how many of the cars and trucks made by these companies are actually made in the united states? The parts are all american, but assembly is done outside the united states now becuase a bill was passed that allowed them to do this. The bills purpose was to allow companies to decrease expenses to decrease teh total cost of products, but what you see is the companies charging the same amount, if not more, for these products and taking a larger portion of profit.
I believe to be an American Company you should have to employee american workers (citizens NOT illegals) and should have to have all your factories and offices on American Soil, or else you should be taxed beyond belief.

[chazbubba]

I have made lots of purchases from Dell Canada. Great service, great prices.
We have 50,000 Dell desktops at work and probably will replace them with more Dells.

[rlarson_mn]

Hate to say this but HP will probably be my next Pocket PC as well as my next computer, desk top or laptop. Very sad.

First of all the current administration has very little to do with companies moving overseas. The tax code in America is mostly what is responsible for that. If we as a country had the will to implement the "Fair Tax", most ,if not all of these corporations would move back to their own shores along with many other country's companies.
We would also lose the IRS and wouldn't that be cool?

Here here!!!!

actually i believe the current administration has a lot to do with it when they allowed these corporations to move oversees without harsh penalties.. Just like haliburton is moving overseas to dubai. They still are calling themselves a "US" company and keeping an office in dallas, but why then do they need to make a move to dubai out of the country? I think there is a little more going on then what they want us to believe..
How about Ford and chevy.. you know how many of the cars and trucks made by these companies are actually made in the united states? The parts are all american, but assembly is done outside the united states now becuase a bill was passed that allowed them to do this. The bills purpose was to allow companies to decrease expenses to decrease teh total cost of products, but what you see is the companies charging the same amount, if not more, for these products and taking a larger portion of profit.
I believe to be an American Company you should have to employee american workers (citizens NOT illegals) and should have to have all your factories and offices on American Soil, or else you should be taxed beyond belief.

Excellent point. Maybe if we had a law that taxed them twice the amount they are currently, we would see less overseas "outsourcing!" Let's see how eager they are to go offshore then.

Hate to say this but HP will probably be my next Pocket PC as well as my next computer, desk top or laptop. Very sad.

Mine wil proabably be HP to. Them seem to "get it" Happy customers=repeat customers.

[greenglide]

How wonderful it is to see the rise of american protectionism again

I don't come from USA, I am British, employed by a US computer service company doing work for the UK Government. So, presumably, all the US protectionists are quite happy for the UK government to pay US companies to outsource their work!

Offshoreing is a fact of life. Get real. If people in India / Mexico / Hungary / China / Taiwan etc can / will do the work cheaper (taking into account the extra costs of "loss of goodwill" etc) then will you a) pay more to have the work done in US or b) complain but put up with it?

Presumably all you "no Indian call centres" (are Mexican call centres OK?) dont buy Japanese, Taiwan, Indian, Korean (etc) cars, clothes, TVs, computers .... you do pay the extra for US made dont you?

Since the 1950s low skilled low value jobs have been exported to low wage economies - what has changed is that the low wage economies do more that just make plastic toys and assemble parts designed in the high wage economies.

Yes, it hurts. It is happening everywhere (it is happening in my employer who are offshoring work to India, Egypt etc - can I complain to the US for doing this?). The only sensible answer is to accept and understand what is happening and replace those jobs lost with other jobs which cannot (for whatever reason) economically be offshored.

Burying heads in sand achieves nothing good. Toyota is now the worlds largest car manufacturer. Unfortunate for GM (and absolutely desperate for those who used to work for them) but Toyota DO have assembly plants in the USA (and numerous other countries) which manage to produce cars cheaper.

In the UK there are now no British volume car makers - only US / Japanese / French - should I be unhappy?

Dons asbestos underpants!

[Numus]

And when your job is replaced by someone in india because they can do the same work you can for cheaper.. and you can't find a job because everything you are suited for have been sent over to india how will you feel?
I bet when you see no pay check coming to you because it is going to 2 indian workers because they are willing to work at 1/2 the rate you areyou will not be happy..
Oh wait.. america has a minimum wage policy, so the people in india are working BELOW the minimum wage in america.. Is that right? So we have no choice now but to outsource our jobs.. sounds like getting around the minimum wage problem to me...
Well.. lets hope all our jobs get outsourced so we never have to work again, because these "new jobs that can't be outsourced" dont exist really anymore...