I tried it a year ago and my pc wasn't able to recognize the device anymore so I rolled it back to 2003, did they fix activesync and WM5 now so it is worth upgrading? What's so great about WM5 over 2003?
Don't do it you will not enjoy the experience. You will do what pretty well every one else does (including me) and roll back to 2003 anyway.
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I tried it a year ago and my pc wasn't able to recognize the device anymore so I rolled it back to 2003, did they fix activesync and WM5 now so it is worth upgrading? What's so great about WM5 over 2003?
I tried it a year ago and my pc wasn't able to recognize the device anymore so I rolled it back to 2003, did they fix activesync and WM5 now so it is worth upgrading? What's so great about WM5 over 2003?
It's not about activesync but WM5 in aku 1. If your device is in aku higher or equal to 2 then you will have an applet available in connections settings panel named "USB to PC", its enabled to advanced network functionality by default. If you unable it, your device will behave like being on WM2003 for usb activesync.
WM5 is great especially because of Permanent Storage no need to do restore anymore and no more lost datas because of battery drop down.
Having visited the WM5 on my x50v, I can safely say 'NO DON'T DO IT'
yes you can get the sync working, by turning of the new setting in systems on your device USB to PC, untick the advanced box and also install ActiveSync 4.2, well thats how I resolved the issue...
But really 2003SE is superbly fast reliable and everything works, you can run your today stuff your wisbars and your quick launchers brilliantly..
On WM5 all these things run like dragging a large pile of bricks up a muddy slope in November, eventually you will get there but a tiresome tedious adventure will be had...and some programs will have you falling all the way back down head first in a cow pat, shouting 'Oh windows Oh windows where for Nout thou Windows'
any way, you will find yourself doing as everyone else seems to have done, upgrading to A01 then A02...trying it for a while, installing your software, putting up with slow downs and some terrible system halts, trying to convince yourself its all ok until eventually you will just downgrade and breath out a sign of pure unadulterated relief....thank the skies I am back with 2003SE...
Having visited the WM5 on my x50v, I can safely say 'NO DON'T DO IT'
yes you can get the sync working, by turning of the new setting in systems on your device USB to PC, untick the advanced box and also install ActiveSync 4.2, well thats how I resolved the issue...
But really 2003SE is superbly fast reliable and everything works, you can run your today stuff your wisbars and your quick launchers brilliantly..
On WM5 all these things run like dragging a large pile of bricks up a muddy slope in November, eventually you will get there but a tiresome tedious adventure will be had...and some programs will have you falling all the way back down head first in a cow pat, shouting 'Oh windows Oh windows where for Nout thou Windows'
any way, you will find yourself doing as everyone else seems to have done, upgrading to A01 then A02...trying it for a while, installing your software, putting up with slow downs and some terrible system halts, trying to convince yourself its all ok until eventually you will just downgrade and breath out a sign of pure unadulterated relief....thank the skies I am back with 2003SE...
I hereby nominate this to be the official answer to the 'Should I upgrade my Axim to WM5' question. :approve:
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I tried it a year ago and my pc wasn't able to recognize the device anymore so I rolled it back to 2003, did they fix activesync and WM5 now so it is worth upgrading? What's so great about WM5 over 2003?
Ask the opinion of happy successful upgraders as well like Ivan Awfulitch, aezzat, Gunsight1911 and several more others. Ask them how stable it is and how they managed to keep it stable. There are no problems with activesync 4.x and WM5 per se but if you plan to install the widcomm stack, sometimes you have to tweak it a little because of the RNDIS problem WM5. (RNDIS fix by Beemer). In general WM5's advantage over 2003se is persistent storage, better battery life and better driver memory management (see this article by Menneisyys).
Ask the opinion of happy successful upgraders as well like Ivan Awfulitch, aezzat, Gunsight1911 and several more others. Ask them how stable it is and how they managed to keep it stable. There are no problems with activesync 4.x and WM5 per se but if you plan to install the widcomm stack, sometimes you have to tweak it a little because of the RNDIS problem WM5. (RNDIS fix by Beemer). In general WM5's advantage over 2003se is persistent storage, better battery life and better driver memory management (see this article by Menneisyys).
Thanks for the great links, however wouldn't you have to agree that an update of x50 to WM5 is problematic, and for advanced users?
I tried A01 of WM5 last year (or was it earlier?) and was unable to get it to run reliably. The many hacks etc on this site help in many ways but made the whole thing very wobbly - I went back to WM2003SE.
When A02 was released I tried again. The installation worked (already using ActiveSync 4.2 (or higher?) from the previous attempt) - both of A01 and the upgrade to A02.
Since then, no hacks apart from the "fake server" to keep ActiveSync under control. System is stable and works.
I don't use many applications (mainly TomTom and CorePlayer) and it may be a fraction slower in responding to the start menu etc but the applications seem to run at the same speed. The main advantage, as said before, is persistent storage. Yes - I do backup regularly but its much simpler when the system just restarts itself without losing data or applications when the battery has run down. I suppose it is more of a benefit to users who do not use the X50 every day (I dont).
I suppose its a bit like Windows 98SE v Windows XP v Windows Vista. Windows 98SE still works fine (unless you try some new hardware for which drivers are unavailable), Windows XP still works fine and Vista is for the bold!
Quite happy to use WM5, quite happy to use Windows XP!
Thanks for the great links, however wouldn't you have to agree that an update of x50 to WM5 is problematic, and for advanced users?
It really depends on how you are using your device. If you have few applications installed you can stick with WM2003 SE. If you have plenty, every time you will install a new application it will eat your ram little by little and you might reach a state where you won't get that much ram available to run your application.
I had to do multiple advanced user tricks on my x50v under WM2003 when I migrate all my applications from my 128 Mo Ram e800 to the 64 Mo Ram x50v. You need to relocate all dll from /Windows to SD or Internal Storage (when possible). Some time you even have to hexedit dll to modify the path so you can relocate out of Ram.
Under WM5 there is no problem no matter the amount of applications installed you will always have 28 Mo to run your apps.
The only trick you have to follow is to install your apps on SD.
If possible try not to use any cache on persistent storage.
# on crée RamDisk-4096 4Mo de cache
Run "\Windows\ramdisk.exe" ,4096
# on lance Pie
RunWait "\Windows\iexplore.exe"
# on supprime le RamDisk-unload
Run "\Windows\ramdisk.exe" ,/U
The script will then reserve 4 Mo in Ram for Pie Cache, it will launch Pie after then when closing Pie, it will remove the 4 Mo RamDisk and the cache with it.
I have tried twice now with A02....it runs terribly....does yours not lock up and if you feel the back you battery area gets very hot until you reset the device...you can't possibly run Today programs like Pocket breeze which I use constantly, it takes about a minute to open Opera, where as about 5 seconds in 2003SE...
sometimes when typing it delays and the machine has to do catch up to keep up, this is just not on for a pocket machine...
Tell me you use your x50v WM5 more than your x51v WM5 ?
I have tried twice now with A02....it runs terribly....does yours not lock up and if you feel the back you battery area gets very hot until you reset the device...you can't possibly run Today programs like Pocket breeze which I use constantly, it takes about a minute to open Opera, where as about 5 seconds in 2003SE...
sometimes when typing it delays and the machine has to do catch up to keep up, this is just not on for a pocket machine...
Tell me you use your x50v WM5 more than your x51v WM5 ?
Right Now I am only using the x50v as main device because it's more up to date in regards of the version of the software used. I have to update my x51v.
On the x50v I use rlToday, pocketBreeze, today+ and iLauncher as today pluggin they all work fine, I don't have any issue with the battery getting hot but I applied the server trick on activesync (I did that on the x51v too).
I also have opera opening in around 5 seconds but I don't use it that much because it doesn't handle proxy well. I have relocated the opera cache on SD but I noticed that it sometimes hang the device and I have to reset the machine then.
However I use the beta version so that could be the problem. I did not installed it on the x51v yet.
Having visited the WM5 on my x50v, I can safely say 'NO DON'T DO IT'
yes you can get the sync working, by turning of the new setting in systems on your device USB to PC, untick the advanced box and also install ActiveSync 4.2, well thats how I resolved the issue...
But really 2003SE is superbly fast reliable and everything works, you can run your today stuff your wisbars and your quick launchers brilliantly..
On WM5 all these things run like dragging a large pile of bricks up a muddy slope in November, eventually you will get there but a tiresome tedious adventure will be had...and some programs will have you falling all the way back down head first in a cow pat, shouting 'Oh windows Oh windows where for Nout thou Windows'
any way, you will find yourself doing as everyone else seems to have done, upgrading to A01 then A02...trying it for a while, installing your software, putting up with slow downs and some terrible system halts, trying to convince yourself its all ok until eventually you will just downgrade and breath out a sign of pure unadulterated relief....thank the skies I am back with 2003SE...
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Don't do it you will not enjoy the experience. You will do what pretty well every one else does (including me) and roll back to 2003 anyway.
