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Old 04-27-07, 06:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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THUD's WM5 on x50v Story....

OK...This is going to be a continuing story, which I shall update as I change things, problems, tips and anything that happens whilst updating and running WM5 on my x50v....

Lets go back in time a bit first....Initially I installed WM5 upgrade to A01 then instantly upgraded to A02...basically ensuring the device was cradled, plugged in to mains and did all the hard resets required whilst still connected and everything seemed fine....now instead of repeating myself I have upgraded twice in this fashion...

As soon as the upgrade was finished, I unchecked the error reporting, USB to PC advanced setting and added the Activesync fake server...

Now initially I had a nightmare trying to get activesync to connect with my axim, spent pratically a whole day tearing my hair out, then I brushed aside the paile of hair to discover a little tip hidden away somewhere in a forum far far away about unchecking the advanced USB to PC connection settings, this immediately sprung connections into life...feeeuuuuuuuuw

now on the first two attempts at WM5 I followed word for word the advice on the stickies on this x50/x51 forum, ran all the 2k2 tweaks all the registry edits and deleted the compaction 256 keys...then I began to install my programs, this is where my world and its WM5 collapsed into a pile of stick toffee mudcake....

I installed Pocketbreeze onto device, resco explorer onto device, Collins Bird Eguide onto device, Opera 6.8beta onto device and then wisbar 2 onto the device, immediately after installing these programs i noticed the system slowing almost to a halt, so I decided to reset...resets take longer with WM5, but you do get a nice little bar telling you its progress, still it doesn't take more than a minute...now thinking everything was going to be ok, my device Froze, like someone had slapped it hard in the face with a club hammer and shouting your mother was a hamster...the little axim was in shock...terrible shock........in fact so bad each time I reset it hung with the box, Wisbar starting just glaring at me.....I couldn't even get to browse the device through activesync....what was I to do....so I hard reset and began again...

This time deciding to not install Wisbar and things just spiraled downwards rapidly, the WM5 world was destined for the toilet, I struggled on for days, trying to type, open programs, surf the net to find my little device just wallowing like a stunned marrow in a marrow squashing contest, The only thing to be done was downgrade.....back in the land of 2003SE...wow things picked up, speed was returned to my x50v...

Then along came Makuu in this thread http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=152014
I decided to research a bit more the route of the WM5, also finding a youtube video with WM5 running very fast on a HP4700 ....so yes third time lucky or not, I made a decision to upgrade once again, this time following in the footsteps of Makuu...

Here goes....Hard reseting my x50v WM2003....

Starting up, upgrade CD....continuing with the upgrade to A01 then A02...will post more as I go...
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Old 04-27-07, 06:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'll be watching this with interest. I'm tweaking my phone at the moment.. but there are a lot of advantages for running both devices on the same OS.

(although I can stay put as my axim has a very nice setup for me at the moment)
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I know how you feel. I had exactly the same trouble as you have had Thud. My x50v just wouldn't run the upgrade satsifactorily at all. It was slow and jerky and very very unstable. I tired to hard reset it and it never got past the Dell splash screen resulting in it being effectively bricked. After calling and complaining, dell upgraded me to an x51v. If you want the most bang for your buck out ot the x50v, I'd stick with 2003SE. Good luck with it.
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Old 04-27-07, 08:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Just few comments:

I didn't use the deleted the compaction 256 keys tricks, I think it's useless.

Rather than using Resco Explorer use GSFinder+, it react much faster.

As for Opera you need to relocate the cache in SD, and even thought I still have issue if I browse for a long time. I will try to see if I can relocate the cache in RamDisk.

Also I still believe using shsmith's patch makes it worse.

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Old 04-27-07, 09:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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OK...update A01 and A02 complete, setup the activesync fix, turned off the error messagaging, unchecked the advanced USB to PC, installed tweak 2k2 and reg editor to SD card, also installed RAMDISK and changed the cache registry as suggested by Makuu, tweaked the cache settings in tweak2K2 software, have NOT deleted the compaction registry keys and am installing everything to SD card...

Also have installed Opera to SD card and changed as below...

) This is the most important step!!! On your PC or using a text editor in your PDA, edit the file \Application data\Opera\opera.ini and replace every occurrence of the path \Application data\Opera\*something* with \Memory card\Opera\*something* (supposing \memory card\ is your SD/MMC/CF card's path).

2) copy the whole Opera directory from \Application data\ to \Memory card\. Now you should have two identical folders: \Application data\Opera in main memory and \Memory card\Opera on the SD/MMC/CF card.

3) The most logical step now would be removing the former directory (the one in main memory) but DON'T do this. Opera executable, in fact, still looks for the opera.ini files located in \Application data\Opera.

4) In \Application data\Opera remove every file and folder BUT KEEP the three files: english.lng, opera.ini (of couse!) and opera6.adr. I repeat: u can REMOVE all the files and folders but u must LEAVE the 3 files i listed. Don't worry, the three files don't require much space while the cache folder is now on \Memory card\Opera

this was found here...http://my.opera.com/community/forums....dml?id=120757

after all this everthing is running very well indeed....

Programs now installed on SD =

Pocket Breeze - running as quick as 2003SE
PHM Registry - decided to use this as Resco played up last time I tried it on WM5
eSymetric GmbH run.GPS - actually opens quicker so far than it did in 2003SE
Collins Bird eGuide - takes about the same time to open
vBar- well its tiny and brilliant
Opera - opens about the same time, probably the same speed, but have upped the cache to 5000 as its now all on SD
Tweaks2K2 - runs the same as 2003SE

Setup of GPS took me a while, as you use the new GPS in settings, but works great now...

The Ramdisk program taken from here http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=152014
Makuu's post seems to work amazingly well, all you do is drag two files to the windows directory and the other files somewhere like your programs folder for quick access, you basicaly run the initial exe first off to install and then click the size of ram you want from the other files, these reset after soft resetting though, which is fine, really super injects the speed of the machine for sure...will test loads more today...

Am going to give it a right good testing all afternoon, get ready....

So far I am impressed...but will I be for long, hmmm
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Old 04-27-07, 11:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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RamDisk is very usefull but it takes some of you Ram and will leave you less to use for program. That is why I am using this script as pie launcher:

Quote:
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# Lancement iexplore #
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# on crée RamDisk-4096 4Mo de cache
Run "\Windows\ramdisk.exe" ,4096

# on lance Pie
RunWait "\Windows\iexplore.exe"

# on supprime le RamDisk-unload
Run "\Windows\ramdisk.exe" ,/U
Because by doing so it will reserve Ram for the pie Cache when you will use the launcher script and then once you will close pie it will automatically unload the RamDisk. ;)
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ohh so is the ram Disk on used for internet explorer then ?

UPDATE on progress....been putting the x50v on and off the cradle copious amounts, it takes a few seconds longer to auto sync than 2003SE, but handles it well, I have tried running my GPS Igo also installed on the CF card this time complete with full UK maps, I manged to have that running, minimised it, went to today screen and flicked through pocketBreeze events as well as having explorer window and imaging open in background, never been able to do that in 2003SE...

then with all this going on I dropped it onto the cradle and it still sync'd up...

I now have installed ...

Memory Map navigator with 6 40MB maps on the CF card, this actually runs a lot faster than it ever did in 2003SE, really dont know why, but with SE it took about 30 seconds to open maps, where as with WM5 it takes about 5 seconds, this I was very impressed with...

I have installed Igo navigator also to the CF card and this runs about the same speed, although not quiet so quick to pick up the GPS bluetooth as in SE, yet strangely Memory map is faster to find the GPS device, not sure again why, might be a setting I have wrong.

Also installed Virtual Pool GLES demo on the SD, I have just pulled the Axim off the cradle, quickly opened the game played a few shots, shut it down, then imediately opened it up again, closed it down and woped it back on the cradle, its not happilly syncing...

Why this third time around I am find things different I am not sure, the only thing I am trying to do is make sure everything including My documents is installed on the SD card, large files etc...on the CF and nothing in the main memory...

So far after 6 hours continous use and abuse since WM502...I am very impressed...

Tonight and over the weekend I shall test it further....

Update coming soon...
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Problem Occured....Just went to look up a contact on the device and it seems most of , but not all the contacts have sync'd....now this needs looking into further, can't work out why not, seems strange it syncs everything else fine, yet some contacts not...

Hope your not getting to bored of my ramblings today
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Keep them comming. Its great as I'd be going about things in a similar manner, and I'd rather learn from your pain than mine
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ohh so is the ram Disk on used for internet explorer then ?
Yes it's up to you but right now I'am mainly use it for pocket ie.
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UPDATE....So its day TWO of the x50v and WM5 thing...

Over night after quiet an intensive playing about trying to make the system fail yesterday...This morning, hit the button and imediately the screen comes on (now this is where I have noticed, it just instantly comes on and goes of, with 2003SE you would get a slight delay with black screen and white lines running vertically, only a slip second but definately not there with WM5)

Anyway straight away I checked to see if the battery had drained, closing a few pop up things 'to do's for today (I do like the way WM5 has these boxes that scroll up from the bottom ) and was amazed to see the battery had NOT drained at all...

So on with the tests..............................
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Update....everything is ready for the big test.....off camping now...be back in a few days, treking and cycling in the middle of nowhere, no power....lets test the x50v with its battery pack and all....see you a bit later on with how I got on with WM5 and x50v....

So far so good, will it be the same in a few days....
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Morning...afternoon to wherever you are...Am back now after nearly a week with my x50v running WM5, been away in the camper van, done lots of hiking walking, cycling running memory map navigator, collins bird eguide mainly, flipping between both applications all the time connected to bluetooth gps and WM5 has performed near on perfect only having to soft reset this morning, in fact that is the first soft reset I have had to do since I first started tweaking stuff in 2k2 at the beginning of this thread over a week ago, pretty impressed with this new install and setup I have with WM5, everything has been running fast, occasional crash out of bird eguide but thats normal, battery life seems longer and basically I prefer this to 2003SE for sure...

Will continue to test over the next few weeks until your even more bored...
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I'm glad someone else got it working. I haven't done most of the tweaks that you mentioned, just the fake Activesync server, and everything has been fine for over a week now. I just never saw this massive slowdown from WM2003SE that other people have been describing. It also seemed to sync with Vista, even over Bluetooth, right away with no problems.
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UPDATE 8th May still with WM5 on the x50v

CONS and PROS :

Cons:

Netfront3.3 = runs but has tremendous halts lasting over a minute, even with Cache set to SD - RESULT = uninstalled

Opera 8.65Beta = runs faster than anything, but has halts of around 10-20 seconds occasionally even setup to run from SD, with ini file redirected to SD also - RESULT = unistalled

Activesync 4.2/4.5 = not syncing contacts and contacts notes = RESULT installed PocketMirror and everything works perfectly now.

PROs :

Wifi = starts up and connects virtually instantly and works in my mind a whole lot quicker than 2003SE

Bluetooth = once you setup the GPS in the settings (this function not available in 2003SE) Memory Map, Igo and tracky pick up my bluetooth GPS in seconds

MEMORY MAP = seems to run a whole lots faster than it ever did in 2003SE, finds maps on a CF card in under 5 seconds apossed to near on 40 seconds with 2003SE, also the bluetooth configuration works instantly.

Igo and tracky = Run similar to Memory map, no problems at all.

PIE = now set to Cache on the SD, runs a whole lot faster than 2003SE, is totally stable and never halts like Opera and Minimo or Netfront do.

PocketBreeze = works perfectly, and when switching to Options and back doesn't take as long as it ever did under 2003SE, also switching through the tabs is instant

Battery Life = lasts about 20 minutes longer with the standard battery, not sure the difference with the larger capacity one

Stability = I have only had to soft reset twice in two weeks with WM5, with 2003SE practically every day it needed a Soft reset. If there is a problem WM5 seems to take a few seconds longer to sort it out and then everthing is back to normal...where as I used to find 2003SE would get itself into a complete nightmare and have to be soft reset.

TWIN button menu and central keyboard = I prefer this, it seems natural to hit the keyboard cetrally when quickly trying to type, instead of squashing your hand up into the bottom left corner, only a small thing, but I just find the two buttons and the central keyboard quicker to use.


Things I am going to try next.....TRUE VGA

RESULTS so far = :approve: :approve: :approve: :approve: to WM5 on x50v
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