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Old 07-31-07, 10:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zaniax View Post
Sorry, but that's not a serious argument to me.
Kick the ball - not the players
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What about kick boxers?
We have already decide upon the "ball" or the Roms and they aren't in fact at fault they are inanimate objects. It is usually user error just like any sport.
When has the ball ever been at fault, it is always the player. We aren't playing here.
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Old 07-31-07, 10:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I know the policy is there, but what are hacked roms?
 
Old 08-01-07, 04:28 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The software we're talking about, the so called "illegal" ROM's are corrected (and improved) DELL ROM's by others because DELL left some errors in them. Those guys should be paid by DELL!:approve:

Next. I have once read a thread on this website about changing the language of the OS on a DELL PDA. If there is something illegal then this is it! That thread was never closed!

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Old 08-01-07, 12:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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No worries, I'm not posting links or otherwise to hacked ROMS here. However, I have seen at least four threads closed this week by the forum moderators in response to discussion/links related to fixed/hacked/illegal ROMS--however you want to call them. Okay, I'm clear on the policy about discussion/links for hacked ROMS and I'm fine with it. BUT, why do the moderators have to close an ENTIRE thread because one or two idiots didn't read the rules and posted stuff they shouldn't have? The thread probably wasn't even related to any hacked ROM in the first place and may have had some great discussion until someone decided to ruin it for everyone by breaking the rules. I just don't see why it is necessary to close the whole thread. Why not just delete the wrongful posts and while you're at it, delete the user's login who broke the rules instead of punishing everyone else also by closing the thread. Plus, almost everytime you close a thread that had good discussion on it, another thread is going to open up to pick up where the closed thread left off. That just creates more threads that makes it harder to search for topics using the forum search.

So my request is, please, moderators, review your policy on handling wrongful ROM posts so that the users who follow the rules are not "punished" also for the wrong that a select few commit. Thank you.
I agree with cavyman 100%. Why punish everyone by closing a thread when someone posts informtion about the forbidden subject. Just delete the post and warn the user. If he or her continues, then just cancel their username. I think this is a much better idea then closing all threads that happen to post information about any subject that does not meet the published rules.
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Old 08-01-07, 07:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Worried Too many rules will hurt this forum

I have always felt that the rules of this forum is way too tight, and it will eventually hurt the popularity of it.

I once posted a reply citing another post of another forum. Just because that forum has links of illegal software, I was asked to mask out the web address of the other forum. I felt this is a total overkill, but I did comply as this is the "rule".

The popularity of this forum has gong south significantly in recent month as Dell stopped selling x51v. I hate to see this forum becomes some of the Brighthand's forum, basically went stale and got no new post for weeks/months.

I am against posting links for illegal ROM also. This forum is not a good place to talk about issue/question about them either. But why go out of the way to ban every single mentioning of them? I do not see any legal reason for it, except it is probably the strong feeling of the moderator.
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Old 08-01-07, 09:17 PM   #21 (permalink)
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OK - no system is perfect, and there is no set of rules that will suit every situation. I have been on other forums in the past that had no moderators at all. It was the biggest Troll fest you ever seen.
 
Old 08-01-07, 09:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Beweglich View Post
(>>SNIP!!<< ... so just let it be and go to xda-developers if it is that big of a deal.
Never was a big deal to me. But, this is what I've done. My X50v works better than it ever has!

...and... BOOO!!!!! Dell!!!! for dropping support.
 
Old 08-01-07, 10:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by big_redfox View Post
I have always felt that the rules of this forum is way too tight, and it will eventually hurt the popularity of it.

I once posted a reply citing another post of another forum. Just because that forum has links of illegal software, I was asked to mask out the web address of the other forum. I felt this is a total overkill, but I did comply as this is the "rule".

The popularity of this forum has gong south significantly in recent month as Dell stopped selling x51v. I hate to see this forum becomes some of the Brighthand's forum, basically went stale and got no new post for weeks/months.

I am against posting links for illegal ROM also. This forum is not a good place to talk about issue/question about them either. But why go out of the way to ban every single mentioning of them? I do not see any legal reason for it, except it is probably the strong feeling of the moderator.
We have, as of the time of this post, 197,752 members. Most of the forums are very active. Chris has successfully merged Aximsite and Mobilitysite to create a site that addresses not only all the Axim's but other PDAs, SmartPhones, UMPCs, Tablets, Game systems, cell phones, accessories, software and politics. All he asks is that we don't post links to piracy sites or serials for software. The Mods keep out the spam, so most posts are relevant. Eventually this forum will go stale because the hardware/software is obsolescent. However, the X5 forums had posts almost every day, and that is a pretty old system. Let's not pronounce doom for Aximsite just because the policy is no piracy support. Chris created a pretty nice thing here, all he (and we) want is to keep it that way.
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Old 08-01-07, 11:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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That is definitely going to be your Hall of Fame quote of the year.
Simply and Beautifully put.
And That is That:approve:
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Let's not pronounce doom for Aximsite just because the policy is no piracy support.
Piracy is stealing money - no doubt about that.
But Dell does not support the Axims anymore and therefore does not loose any money if we upgrade the Axim ROM on a private, non commercial basis.

Do I go wrong in my logic somewhere ?

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Originally Posted by Zaniax View Post
Piracy is stealing money - no doubt about that.
But Dell does not support the Axims anymore and therefore does not loose any money if we upgrade the Axim ROM on a private, non commercial basis.

Do I go wrong in my logic somewhere ?

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Yes. There are third party applications included in the ROM that previously Dell paid a royalty to use. When you clone and distribute that product and don't pay that royalty, you are a pirate stealing software.
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Old 08-02-07, 09:45 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Not my "forum" , so i'll not offer any opinions on "so-called" illegal ROM discussions.

But, thanks go out, and deservingly so, to individuals who spend countless hours
developing and testing software that extends and/or improves any piece of hardware.
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Old 08-02-07, 10:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Installing, a unapproved rom will void your warranty. Posting about unapproved roms may entice less experienced users to ugrade and void their warranty, by posting about these ROMs you actually offer problems for less advanced users, and to assume that all the people that have a current PDA/Smartphone have a true grasp on the vararies of the software installed on their device, and can manipulate that software to their satisfaction
 
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Originally Posted by Pedah View Post
Installing, a unapproved rom will void your warranty. Posting about unapproved roms may entice less experienced users to ugrade and void their warranty, by posting about these ROMs you actually offer problems for less advanced users, and to assume that all the people that have a current PDA/Smartphone have a true grasp on the vararies of the software installed on their device, and can manipulate that software to their satisfaction
Sticking to my word.....comments that follow, are not in any way referenced to illegal ROM discussion.

Most adults [and even young adults] , that are the least bit "tech savy" know quite well the ramifications of hardware modification. The voiding of warranties has always been the standard, and rules of this type range way beyond just electronic devices.

The advancement of many consumer products, in a direct way, were influenced by those that took risk, without regards to ones warranty.
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