About my post: Yes, I see there is a thread about Dell halting development of pdas, but it doesn't explain why exactly they have stopped making Axims. They have been so wildly popular, and it seemed like a success. What would have happened to make them stop making them??
personally, I think they were hoping that the devices would be bigger in the corporate market. They may have been, but blackberries have eaten that market up and HP has the rest.
They are a great PDA, probably the best in the market, but probably not the profit point they wanted. The PDA market has since shifted into integrated PPC phone markets, and the Cell providers will command that.
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Everybody wants a pda that makes calls, dude! I mean look at the iphone hype...
I personally think when dell screwed up the wm5 update for the x50, and then put out a x51 that had no design changes (not that they look bad or anything), it just showed a slow downhill and exit from the pda market.
But, as stated above, many businesses would want ppcs without phones. This is an open market now, b/c hp and dell are out of the pda w/o phone market.
Pdas are good for many businesses and should still be made for them.
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- didn't sell enough axims
- marketplace taken up by blackberries etc ...
- cultural movement and centralization towards integrated devices because that's where the huge consumer market demand is
- people want to make phone calls and also have multimedia/limited comp capability and they don't want to go pda as it's too far down the comp road. Cel phone type devices are easier for regular people to access, understand and adopt.
What i'm not sure of is why Dell hasn't released their own Dell branded HTC variant integrated device. Anybody know?
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I'd rather have a navigational system & a PDA in one. And a phone in another device. Combining those can cause a lot of issues. I bought my Axim x51v off the Gizmos2go website. I just checked now - and they're all sold out! Thank goodness I got MINE!!!
My guess would be money. The PocketPC market is saturated where the Phone/PocketPC is wide open at this time. HTC Vogue is an interesting product but lacks the card memory I would like to see for a PocketPC. In the interim period I have stayed with my Razr and X51V. I did do one improvement though, I duck taped them together to form my version of a Phone/PocketPC (LOL).
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Tape them together... Wowzer... :D Yea but the Razer is a weak weak easily breakable phone... For phones - honestly consider the vx8300 from LG.. Better investment :D
Dell failed at advertising. The Axim X50v and X51v coudl ahve been touted as a multimedia PMP and it woudl have sold 1000X as many.
Also they made a mistake in erquiring all PDAs (event he low-end) to ahve wireless. I've seen a lot of people on other forums asking about PDA wihtout wireless because they work in the government or a similarly secure-area job.
I think the all-in-one is a mistake, my MotoQ crashed during any call over about 3 minutes. I finalyl gave up and got a samsun a900 I could tether to my Axim. So far 3 days and no problems! I wont lie I miss the connectivity to sync my contacts but I'll just look up the ohone# in my PDA to avoid the trouble with the converged systems.
Dell also, imo, did not stay in the market long enough. HP ahs been releasing ipaqs for years and years, dell was only in the market a few years. tehy hadn't built a name for the axim yet. If you say "PDA" to most (even informed) people tehy will reply with "palm, ipaq, blackberry" no mention of Axim, no mention of loox, no mention of Asus's Mypal... These are obscure names that never hit it big.
Now, jsut to point out, somewhere it was stated that Dell ran out of innovation. There wasn't much more tehy could cram into the X51v to release an X61v (fastest mobile processor? got it, nwest OS (at the time) got it, VGA screen? got it, Bluetooth and wifi? got it! about all that was left was USB host and cellular modem capabilities. TRue they could have switched to another CPU like the transmetta carouso (scales like the Xscale but goes upto 1.0ghz, made for Tablet PCs) but thent they'd have to make better batteries or use mroe costly ones. MAybe tehy coudl add a GPS ala loox, but I see BT GPS dropping in price and being useable with so many difference devices I doubt a built-in GPS would be a 'killer' feature.
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I think DELL made a lot of money on Axims but they were just greedy.
I also think DELL lost some money to warranty replacements (That is when they honored the warranty). Though if they had put decent parts in the Pocket PC they wouldn't of had as many problems.
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Dell failed at advertising. The Axim X50v and X51v coudl ahve been touted as a multimedia PMP and it woudl have sold 1000X as many.
Also they made a mistake in erquiring all PDAs (event he low-end) to ahve wireless. I've seen a lot of people on other forums asking about PDA wihtout wireless because they work in the government or a similarly secure-area job.
I think the all-in-one is a mistake, my MotoQ crashed during any call over about 3 minutes. I finalyl gave up and got a samsun a900 I could tether to my Axim. So far 3 days and no problems! I wont lie I miss the connectivity to sync my contacts but I'll just look up the ohone# in my PDA to avoid the trouble with the converged systems.
Dell also, imo, did not stay in the market long enough. HP ahs been releasing ipaqs for years and years, dell was only in the market a few years. tehy hadn't built a name for the axim yet. If you say "PDA" to most (even informed) people tehy will reply with "palm, ipaq, blackberry" no mention of Axim, no mention of loox, no mention of Asus's Mypal... These are obscure names that never hit it big.
Now, jsut to point out, somewhere it was stated that Dell ran out of innovation. There wasn't much more tehy could cram into the X51v to release an X61v (fastest mobile processor? got it, nwest OS (at the time) got it, VGA screen? got it, Bluetooth and wifi? got it! about all that was left was USB host and cellular modem capabilities. TRue they could have switched to another CPU like the transmetta carouso (scales like the Xscale but goes upto 1.0ghz, made for Tablet PCs) but thent they'd have to make better batteries or use mroe costly ones. MAybe tehy coudl add a GPS ala loox, but I see BT GPS dropping in price and being useable with so many difference devices I doubt a built-in GPS would be a 'killer' feature.
It would have cost more but, I think DELL could have put more RAM in the x51v.
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