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View Poll Results: Do you feel discussion on the WM6 upgrade for the Axim should be allowed on Aximsite?
YES, they should allow discussion on the new ROM, and it should be a Frontpage story! 78 50.65%
YES, they should allow discussion on the new ROM. 27 17.53%
YES, they should allow discussion on the new ROM, but links to the source should be deleted. 31 20.13%
NO, they should not allow discussion, and close or delete threads which talk about it. 18 11.69%
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Old 08-15-07, 03:05 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I understand Chris' and the rest of the moderators' POVs, but I can't deny that the WM6 ROM is front-page-news-worthy material for the X51v. This is Aximsite, and if anything is left out, it detracts from the scope of which this site covers.

By no means am I trying to get around the legality of the issue; I know that it's illegal. However, I think we should still be able to talk about it, if Aximsite isn't liable for distribution of the ROM.

I guess I'm just a little nostalgic, because this forum used to be the place I came to whenever there were any new, exciting developments. I remember when shsmith was making that filesys patch for the X50v and everybody helped debug and tried to make the Axim run to the best of its ability. Now, I find that I don't really come to this forum much anymore, as it's not a place to be able to get my Axim running to the best of its hardware capability.

Just like Menn posted an article to the AKU3.5.2 for the HP hx4700 because it ran so much better, with its hardware capability, I think that striving for the best for our Axims isn't a bad cause.
 
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Who cares? The Axim is a dead end device and what is being called WM6 is nothing more than WM5SE.
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Originally Posted by AKAJohnDoe View Post
Who cares? The Axim is a dead end device and what is being called WM6 is nothing more than WM5SE.
Have you tried AKU 3.5.2?
There really is a noticable difference in speed over A12.

I don't know of WM6, but if there are actual improvements, I'd like to know of it.
 
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Originally Posted by Elrendhel View Post
Let's say that you, as Boss/Leader, have listened to a lot of this "advice" from your workers on a given topic, and decided to take the projoect in a direction that goes counter to all of their advice (for whatever reason). Are you going to allow them to continue to question the wisdom of your decision as boss/policy maker after you have made your position clear?
I think chris and the moderators know what is best for aximsite and I respect the rules I agreed to follow when I first came here.

Just wanted to say that in your example you seem to confuse 'workers' with 'customers'.
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[Oh, and I totally forgot about the SDHC support. How is that not a frontpage story? Regardless if somebody hacked the driver into WM5 keeping it fully legal, or somebody embedded it into a brand new WM6 ROM, that's still big, exciting, worthy-to-be-talked-about news]

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Originally Posted by dgoldring View Post
I voted no for one simple reason. This house belongs to Chris Leckness. If you come to my house and I ask you not to swear or use profanity, it isn't up to you as my guest to question whether that is appropriate or not. I asked you not to use certain language in my house, and if you continue doing so, then I would be well within my rights to ask you to leave my house.
Hear, hear!

I too voted "No", but I could never have put it as elegantly.

That the ROM are illegal is not in question, and as such Chris has the right to protect himself and the people at this site by asking people not to use this site as a haven for such things.

Someone raised the point that by the same token that as the Widcomm BT software was used without permission then it is illegal, I would have to agree with that and I would have removed it long ago...

This is a site to provide you with what you *need*, i.e. pointers and solutions to problems that you have via a large and friendly community. This is not a site to give you what you *want*, and face it those who really want WM6 have little or no rationale for why they truly want it except it is newer than what they have and in some indefinable way they seem to think it will cure cancer or ease third world debt.

Is WM6 faster? Show me some benchmarks to prove that you *have* to have that extra speed. WM5 does work, and believe me for a handheld device the X51v is a blazing device. If your device is running like a dog then I suggest you hard reset and only install what you need, not all that Wizbar Advance Super Chobits Edition Flash wallpaper, treat your device with respect and you will find it more than capable.

Is WM6 more secure? No more secure than WM5 with a couple of freeware encryption programs.

I'm still waiting for someone who actually knows *why* they want WM6, and I even posted a thread asking why people wanted it and no-one could give me any real reason whatsoever...

There is one hell of a lot of leniency on these forums, take the Windows Live Messenger Beta that lots of people got through people on this site, the Mods didn't take that down or close those threads and that was a very similar matter. Though less severe a case, it was still technically not legitimate software.

The people whining about WM6 have abused the hospitality of our host and his friends, after repeatedly being asked, quite nicely I might add, to no post anything inflamatory. Discussion is allowed, but too many take it too far.
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All the above being said, it all comes down to this being Chris' site. We may give our input to him, but if he doesn't want talk about the new ROM, it won't be here. It may suck for us as members of Aximsite, but we'll learn to cope, find new forums to talk about this, and enjoy the ROM on our own accord.
 
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hi, i think we should respect the wishes of aximsite and their policies. there are other sites w/ rom discussions, just google to find out where. will aximsite allow people who installed these roms to discuss problems they are having, like let say wifi or active sync and such?
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But not follow Aximsite's rules for illegal software?
Yes, I would and will follow Aximsite’s rules about such items, as yet I have not seen enough to warrant even going down the WM6 path, I like my fully working x51v a12 rom.
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This topic has definitely stirred up a hornet’s nest of “possible” double standards with the other bluetooth stack mods coming under fire.
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double or not, that state the environment is NOW (i'm not a mod and I can't close threads)

MS made a big stink about sites hosting ROMs and as such, no hosting here.

Chris has a very proactive stance about warez and illegal software, therefore no discussion of it here.

From what I've read/heard the widcomm stack is available in SDKs and unless someone tried to sell a package, then there isn't a licensing issue (that I'm aware of...) However, if there is those threads would be closed or deleted as appropriate.


BTW, I haven't heard anything specific about deleting or closing threads on subjects of:
I have an activesync problem on my x51v runing superduper's WM6 ROM
I have an available RAM issue on my x50v WM6

There might be an issue of:
You can get the axim WM6 rom at this site...

There is a definite issue with:
Here is a link to the ROM



All that being said, I know perfectly well what I'll be doing when someone posts:
My Axim keeps freezing up everytime I try to open OneNote mobile
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I've bricked my Axim trying to encrypt it with the WM6 encryption tool
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Honestly is this still going? Even though the poll suggests a different number, it's no cause the site policy says no, what a waste of time explaining this.NO
 
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Honestly is this still going? Even though the poll suggests a different number, it's no cause the site policy says no, what a waste of time explaining this.NO
And that's why some people (myself included) will not vote in it at all...
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And that's why some people (myself included) will not vote in it at all...


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i definitely feel that it should be talked about because as a x50v user i would like to have a nice upgrade from 2003SE. DOnt get me wrong that 2003SE is great but like any other OS it will be discontinued and new programs will run on the new OS. Plus Dell hasnt done its part to make WM6 capable for the device which is sad i think that WM5 was just like a sloppy upgrade for the x50v NOOO im not saying for the x51v but the upgrade was just a sloppy job. I have always said this in the beginning that we deserve a free upgrade this is the perfect time for Dell to redeem themselves
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Originally Posted by kenneth11414 View Post
i definitely feel that it should be talked about because as a x50v user i would like to have a nice upgrade from 2003SE. DOnt get me wrong that 2003SE is great but like any other OS it will be discontinued and new programs will run on the new OS. Plus Dell hasnt done its part to make WM6 capable for the device which is sad i think that WM5 was just like a sloppy upgrade for the x50v NOOO im not saying for the x51v but the upgrade was just a sloppy job. I have always said this in the beginning that we deserve a free upgrade this is the perfect time for Dell to redeem themselves
that is great.. send a letter to Dell, but it doesn't give anyone the right to steal the software
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