Well, I do not want to enter any conservative or non conservaive discussion.
I just want to know from Microsoft what happens if I get a legal copy of any WM5 from a legal site (i.e: here you can download WM2003 file by file from Dell) and I ADAPT it to run in my PDA if it is legal considering:
I already have a licensed copy of WM5.
I get WM5 from some legal site (I assume it exists).
I INSTALL it to my PDA, no hacking, no modifications, just changing registry keys, config files and such, as any other installation procedure does.
I do not distribute it.
Read carefully last parragrah of my question to Microsoft, and see this is exactly what it means.
See also at the question and the topic of the thread how I am not referring to Football ROM, it is assumed I do it by my own.
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Actually, I'd like to know that as well. I've built so many custom XP installs, unattended, slipstreamed patches, built in apps, etc... That I'd like to try my hand at it as well.
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Actually, I'd like to know that as well. I've built so many custom XP installs, unattended, slipstreamed patches, built in apps, etc... That I'd like to try my hand at it as well.
Exactly!!
That is legal, adaptation of any WM5 to our PDA in not different from that.
It is not a hack.
But still Microsoft can say it is not legal...:rolling:
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I searched Google with "microsoft windows mobile" but I got the spanish web: Microsoft Windows Mobile: software pare Smartphone y Pocket PC con ActiveSync
(I hope you will be redirectd to your country web)
At the bottom of the page you have a link "contact"
Then I chose contact as "particular".
At the type of question I chose "other"
and then I get the page wit the form to fill my question.
In "category" I chose "License"
In "sub-category" I chose "license + actualization rights"
Then I got a private mail that say I should get an answer within 2 days.
The staff of MobilitySite and AximSite are once again discussing the merits of cases involving roughly the same situation that afarre opened this thread to discuss.
This is a much thornier issue than WM6, which AFAIAC is plain warez. A "cooked" WM5 ROM for a WM5 device in theory is at worst case voiding warranty, so long as you only use the latest AKU for your device. Anything more becomes a very grey area until we know Microsofts position on whether an AKU is a full upgrade or is simply an update.
I very much respect the moderators here an am very curious as to what their majority of opinion on the matter is.
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From what I recall of the EULA, it basically says any distribution or modification of the software without permission from Microsoft is strictly forbidden. Which means it IS illegal - and given that A17's built from other ROM's out there, means it's very much modified... and in Microsoft-Land, 'unofficial' from a non-MS source usually means 'illegal'.
But short form - the MODS have already indicated that talking about a hacked ROM like A17 is not to be done on this forum. I can post the link if you want.
When certain subjects cannot be discussed, that's setting a limitation on the thinking and mental growth of the individual, fear of expression is bald communism and taking away freedom of expression is like taking your brain away from you and telling you to become a robot. If you accept this kind of mind control, then you are a new millennium slave of mind control, express yourself, and settle for nothing less, God made you a free man....! Which ROM is better for your device the legal or the illegal, that's the question you should be asking yourself. We all know that the A17 is better for your device, than the A12....!
The staff of MobilitySite and AximSite are once again discussing the merits of cases involving roughly the same situation that afarre opened this thread to discuss.
We'll let you know how things turn out.
Would this have any implications for x50V users who "legally" bought the wm5 upgrade from Dell to discuss the same subject?
I am not trying to start more of the stuff that has been going on for the last month or so.
Just wanted to know if these users would be able to be included in this discussion also.
I will also respect the staffs decision on this issue.
When certain subjects cannot be discussed, that's setting a limitation on the thinking and mental growth of the individual, fear of expression is bald communism and taking away freedom of expression is like taking your brain away from you and telling you to become a robot. If you accept this kind of mind control, then you are a new millenium slave of mind control, express yourself, and settle for nothing less, God made you a free man....!
Nice to throw words like "communism" "robot" and phrases like "slave of mind control" just to inflame the discussion a little bit, huh?
You would serve your argument better if you had not used those terms, and others in your post.
These terms, as others in your post, just alienate those who make the policies of this forum.
They do not seek to tell us how or what to think but just what they feel the forum discussions should not cover.
You are free to go elsewhere to discuss topics the staff here feel inappropriate to this site.
Your house, your rules.
This is not your house so you must go by the rules of this "house", not a hard concept to understand and obey.
Nice to throw words like "communism" "robot" and phrases like "slave of mind control" just to inflame the discussion a little bit, huh?
You would serve your argument better if you had not used those terms, and others in your post.
These terms, as others in your post, just alienate those who make the policies of this forum.
They do not seek to tell us how or what to think but just what they feel the forum discussions should not cover.
You are free to go elsewhere to discuss topics the staff here feel inappropriate to this site.
Your house, your rules.
This is not your house so you must go by the rules of this "house", not a hard concept to understand and obey.
That's the same reason we have a great exodus of people out of a lot of countries in the world, because of house rules, that stagnate thinking, the expression of creative thought! This in itself maybe the death of this web site............!
That's the same reason we have a great exodus of people out of a lot of countries in the world, because of house rules, that stagnate thinking, the expression of creative thought! This in itself maybe the death of this web site............!
A little bit of exaggeration there, do you not think?
This is one category the staff has, to this point, made off limits.
Has nothing to do with a "great exodus of people out of a lot of countries in the world"
Please bring a rational argument to your case, you will be better served and you will get more respect.
I'm curious to see Microsoft's answer to this question too. However, I doubt that anyone within MS that the general public has access to will be high enough up the food chain to give a knowledgable answer. I'm hoping Chris will pose this question as I would think he has contacts within MS that might be able to answer the question. Just an explanation of how the licensing process works and if there are different packages available, etc. would be enlightening.
A little bit of exaggeration there, do you not think?
This is one category the staff has, to this point, made off limits.
Has nothing to do with a "great exodus of people out of a lot of countries in the world"
Please bring a rational argument to your case, you will be better served and you will get more respect.
My point is, what harm would be done if you were to discuss a hacked ROM! I believe more harm is being done by not discussing the hack ROM. This is where the exodus of people from this web site will come into play.........! FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THE GREAT AMERICAN WAY!
My point is, what harm would be done if you were to discuss a hacked ROM! I believe more harm is being done by not discussing the hack ROM. This is where the exodus of people from this web site will come into play.........!
First off, much better argument here.
But then you ruined it with this cliche' "FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THE GREAT AMERICAN WAY!"
The point has been explained in just about every thread about this subject and has been explained better that I could do.
The exodus of people from this site has more to do with people getting newer devices that are not Axims.
Yes, there are people who will leave here because of the stance of the staff but if this is a reason to leave, when this site still offers a lot of information and support for users, then it may be their loss as well as Aximsites.
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