The point has been explained in just about every thread about this subject and has been explained better that I could do.
The exodus of people from this site has more to do with people getting newer devices that are not Axims.
Yes, there are people who will leave here because of the stance of the staff but if this is a reason to leave, when this site still offers a lot of information and support for users, then it may be their loss as well as Aximsites.
What harm is done, if we discuss the hacked ROM on your Axim, if that hached ROM is making your Axim run better. Just about 95% of all Axim owners have the new ROM on their device, its that good. But you cannot discuss on a Axim site about what makes your device run better and popeye is a freake..........! Microsoft and Dell do not own your Axim, you have the right to put whatever kind of ROM you want on your device, because you are the sole owner of that device. You can kill a man, but you can never ever kill that man's ideal. It will be expressed........!
What harm is done, if we discuss the hacked ROM on your Axim, if that hached ROM is making your Axim run better. Just about 95% of all Axim owners have the new ROM on their device, its that good. But you cannot discuss on a Axim site about what makes your device run better and popeye is a freake..........! Microsoft and Dell do not own your Axim, you have the right to put whatever kind of ROM you want on your device, because you are the sole owner of that device..!
I do not disagree with wanting to discuss the issue here, but the staff has rules that prohibit it.
I guess I just choose to follow the rules here as opposed to pushing an issue that will not get resolved by bickering.
The staff here may listen if members present lucid, clear arguments as opposed to childish rants and exaggerations.
This last part is not directed to a particular person but more in general towards some of the posts that have been made on the subject.
I do not disagree with wanting to discuss the issue here, but the staff has rules that prohibit it.
I guess I just choose to follow the rules here as opposed to pushing an issue that will not get resolved by bickering.
The staff here may listen if members present lucid, clear arguments as opposed to childish rants and exaggerations.
This last part is not directed to a particular person but more in general towards some of the posts that have been made on the subject.
Will Microsoft sue this web site if the people discuss the hacked ROM or is this web site being subsidized by Microsoft and Dell with lots of dollars. Something is not adding up here..........! Another question, is the BroadComm Bluetooth Stack a hacked Rom, oh! I forgot Microsoft don't own that, yeah right....................! Can we discuss about the BroadComm Bluetooth Stack. Is it legal or a illegal ROM! Do we have double standards here......!
Will Microsoft sue this web site if the people discuss the hacked ROM or is this web site being subsidized by Microsoft and Dell with lots of dollars. Something is not adding up here..........!
I am not Microsoft so I cannot answer this.
As for the site being subsidized Microsoft, well, if you see a Microsoft ad here, then yes, but otherwise I would say no.
But, then again, I am not part of the staff so cannot answer this either.
As for the site being subsidized Microsoft, well, if you see a Microsoft ad here, then yes, but otherwise I would say no.
But, then again, I am not part of the staff so cannot answer this either.
What about the BroadComm Bluetooth Stack, we all know that is a hacked ROM, but its ok to discuss it. You have really open my eyes to what's really going on now and I see why all the people are Exodusing this web site like the Israelites did in ancient Egypt! Open up the Red Sea.................!(Lol)
stargate51: Your freedom of speech is guaranteed by the Constitution if you're in the United States, but if you swear in front of my kids and start ranting at them about how various minorities are ruining things for the thing-that-will-not-be-mentioned-but-is-often-referred-to-by-White-Supremacists that own this planet and who are the only leaders of humanity, I'm kicking you out of my house or making you shut up about it if you're in or on my property.
This board is basically Chris' private property, which he's letting us use to talk about various things mobile related. His moderators are the people who enforce Chris' house rules; if they say 'don't do this', then you either don't do it, or go to XDA Developers' forum and stop complaining about how they're 'oppressing you and depriving you of your First Amendment rights' - those apply primarily to the interaction the government has with its constituents, rather than between individuals if they're in a private place.
Any further questions? And Broadcom drivers were released publically and were installable on a variety of devices, unlike the WM6 ROM's... which were not.
Damn it, posts like this are why I left in the first place - are we allowed to just ask for bans for repeat offenders regarding WM6, so the rest of us who want to avoid sorting through pages of flamebait or have normal posts ruined by flamebait can be left the heck alone?
This is a much thornier issue than WM6, which AFAIAC is plain warez. A "cooked" WM5 ROM for a WM5 device in theory is at worst case voiding warranty, so long as you only use the latest AKU for your device. Anything more becomes a very grey area until we know Microsofts position on whether an AKU is a full upgrade or is simply an update.
I very much respect the moderators here an am very curious as to what their majority of opinion on the matter is.
What's thorny here? WINDOWS IS NOT OPEN SOURCE!! You cannot legally "cook", "burn", copy, modify it without prior Microsoft consent. If you want to do those things, then use an open source OS such as Linux. This is not a thorny issue. It is illegal. Period.
Wow!
I went to sleep and see what I have here this moorning.
This is totally out of scope.
Please no more opinions, this is a neverending story.
Just leave the thread alone and open so that I can post the answer from Microsoft.
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Gracias por contactar con Microsoft. En relación a su consulta le indicamos que desde Microsoft no podemos pronunciarnos acerca de la política de soporte y disponibilidad de producto de otras compañías, como DELL.
En el caso de los dispositivos móviles que usan nuestra tecnología Windows Mobile, son los propios fabricantes los que estipulan si las actualizaciones son o no aplicables a las características de sus productos, ya que son diseños adaptados del fabricante y no de Microsoft.
Le recordamos que estamos a su entera disposición, para informarle de nuestros productos en nuestro Centro de Atención al Cliente Tel. 902 197 198, en horario de lunes a viernes de 9.00 a 14.00 h.
Reciba un cordial saludo.
Microsoft Ibérica
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Thanks to contact with Microsoft. In relation to your consultation we indicate that from Microsoft we cannot pronounce about the support policy and product availability of other companies, like DELL.
In the case of the mobile devices that use our technology Windows Mobile, manufacturers are those that stipulate if the updates are applicable or not to the characteristics of their products, since they are adapted designs of the manufacturer and not of Microsoft.
Well, nice words just to say nothing, as expected.
What's next, asking to Dell?
I think they understood nothing: I asked a legal question an I got a technical answer. Smart guys at Microsoft .
Think I would have to repeat the question...
Any awy, it seem Microsoft is not much worry about that :)
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I am afraid you did not understand my question.
I did a LEGAL question about licensing.
And I got a TECHNICAL answer.
DELL is just a customer of a Windows Mobile 5.0 license, but you are the owners of the software.
I asked, because I have a PDA with license WM 5.0, if it is legal using a more recent version NOT PROVIDED BY DELL of same version WM 5.0.
I did it answering the mail I got but i do not know if it would be valid or I have to go againt to web form page.
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Well, nice words just to say nothing, as expected.
What's next, asking to Dell?
I think they understood nothing: I asked a legal question an I got a technical answer. Smart guys at Microsoft .
Think I would have to repeat the question...
Any awy, it seem Microsoft is not much worry about that :)
You didn't even get a technical answer to the question you asked... they answered some other question. :bang:
Gracias por contactar con Microsoft. Como respuesta a su consulta, y dado que el emal anterior no ha aclarado sus dudas creemos conveniente señalarle algunas cuestiones respecto a la licencia de Windows Mobile.
Este tipo de licencia de Windows es distribuida a los fabricantes para que diseñen sus dispositivos bajo tecnología Microsoft. Se trata de una licencia preinstalada y configurada a medida por el fabricante, razón por la que, las actualizaciones y nuevas versiones, pueden aplicarse o no en función del dispositivo en concreto, cuestión que conocen los fabricantes y no Microsoft.
Por lo tanto no es tanto una cuestión de legalidad (usted tiene licencia de uso de Windows Mobile con las limitaciones que le marca el fabricante) sino de funcionalidad. No obstante le sugerimos que consulte su contrato de licencia de usuario final (CLUF o EULA en los archivos de programa) de Windows Mobile para conocer las condiciones específicas de uso de su licencia de Windows Mobile
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Thanks to contact with Microsoft. As answer to your consultation, and given that the previous email has not clarified your doubts we consider convenient to indicate you some issues respect to the Windows Mobile license.
This type of Windows license is distributed to manufacturers so that they design his devices under Microsoft technology. It is a preinstalled license and customize configured by the manufacturer, reason for which, the updates and new versions can be applied or not based on the device in particular, this issue is known by manufacturers and not by Microsoft.
Therefore it is not as much a matter of legality (you have license for using Windows Mobile within the limitations established by manufacturer) but of functionality. Despite we suggest you to consult your license contract of end user (CLUF or EULA in the program archives) of Windows Mobile to know the specific conditions of use of your Windows Mobile license.
Once again it needs to be interpreted,... as expected :rolling:
(PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD A BETTER TRANSLATION)
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interesting... does anyone have a link to the eula?
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