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Old 09-05-07, 01:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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and then you'd have support issues.. "I paid for it and it doesn't do X... I want my money back."
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Old 09-05-07, 02:37 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Maybe those $37 are negotiables.
If not, still it could be a good deal for a final price of $50.
Mainly when development is for free and not needed to buy Dell tech doc.
I say that because I consider it is incompatible with a warez version.

So that it means for me it is a good deal only for Football.

But it does not seem he is much interested on it.
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Old 09-05-07, 10:52 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I would also pay $50 to get a copy. I think it would be pretty cool to see it happen and it would definately speak volumes about this already awesome community.

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Old 09-05-07, 11:19 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I would never pay that much money to get a WM6 update for my x51v. WM6 is not much better than WM5. just a few evolutionary aspects, nothing revolutionary.

btw. football has is own SDK already ;)
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Old 09-05-07, 12:16 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What is missing here is a variable pricing model.

Charge $50.00 per license for the WM6 upgrade, with the option to donate additional funds to the developer(s).

Say I purchased the WM6 upgrade for $65.00 (USD). $50.00 automatically goes to paying off the licensing fees. The other $15.00 can either go to the developers, or towards paying off the licensing fees earlier, or it can be distributed as the developers see fit.

Additionally, the upgrade should be sold "AS IS" with no offer of support except through the forums here (once it is "legal") and at XDA Developers.
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Originally Posted by Maximum Dude View Post
What is missing here is a variable pricing model.

Charge $50.00 per license for the WM6 upgrade, with the option to donate additional funds to the developer(s).

Say I purchased the WM6 upgrade for $65.00 (USD). $50.00 automatically goes to paying off the licensing fees. The other $15.00 can either go to the developers, or towards paying off the licensing fees earlier, or it can be distributed as the developers see fit.

Additionally, the upgrade should be sold "AS IS" with no offer of support except through the forums here (once it is "legal") and at XDA Developers.
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I would pay the $50 but only if they release it as an img not nbo... all my hardware buttons have decided to not work but the axim is still usable for everything I need it for however this means I can only update via the cradle and not sd card
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Old 09-05-07, 01:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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No i have not SDK because it's too expensive for me,i'm only student:(,i'm not sure what people can pay for wm6 license 40$ ,and i think it will be too difficult to realise this idea,but if people will be ready for that we can try to realise that idea.:hide:
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Originally Posted by Football 4PDA View Post
No i have not SDK because it's too expensive for me,i'm only student:(,i'm not sure what people can pay for wm6 license 40$ ,and i think it will be too difficult to realise this idea,but if people will be ready for that we can try to realise that idea.:hide:
Hey Football! nice to hearing from you.
You did a great job and now you have the chance to make some money from it.
I think $40 is a little low because you will have to pay about $37 per license released. But you still can make more than $10 per license.
But I am afraid is not compatible with your current work for free neither a donation system, because you will have to pay a fixed fare per license.
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Old 09-06-07, 07:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I'd pay around 50 Euro's, but I have an Axim X50 mid, so chances are if we could do the effort to pay the 1000 Euros only x51v/x50v would exist.

Maybe we should ask for a discount, as we are only a group of enthousiats and do not plan to make money out of this?
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If people ready to pay money for SDK and licenses we can try do that.But i'm haven't this money on my web money account i have only 60$.
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If people ready to pay money for SDK and licenses we can try do that.But i'm haven't this money on my web money account i have only 60$.
People, it looks like those who want to have this and run it legally need to start donating to the cause now.

Looks to me that the monies will need to be paid upfront before anything is done by Football 4PDA to purchase this SDK to do this.

Curious to see how many are willing to pay their fee upfront for this knowing it will be awhile before you have a legall license for this.
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Old 09-06-07, 10:23 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Not posted for ages but IMO people are jumping the gun here. 50usd sounds way to cheap for an upgrade, (£uk25ish) how tight are you all (!!!) If my PDA was upgraded to WM6 and everything worked exactly like it should I'd happily pay double that.

Any project is doom to failure if the people behind it get nothing from it. 2.5usd profit per licence is a joke, no business model even voluntarily could survive on that. I However CAN see it working if its done properly, but even for a small project whoever develops this, very clear goals and understandings from all the team involved must be decided with before hand as I am sure that football would not wish to take it all on alone, and imo it would be unfair to expect him to do so.
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Old 09-08-07, 02:02 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I think that the prospect of SDHC alone would merit half hte cost (remember the high-end SDHC will be 40gb! (rumor says it *could* get to 80 but the white papers say otherwise IIRC))

However, I must play the devils advocate here a moment. There are 2 major players in this game, Dell; who made the Axim, and MS; who made the OS. Dell has already said tehy dont care (Atleast according to one source, and for the sake of this argument I will assume it is true) MS does not see this as a threat right now due to the volume of paid licenses and the now-limited number of Axims (they're all gonna break eventually, one day the only axims around will be in collections/meuseums/etc) Untill something major happens (which it probably wont) MS is not willing to spend the time/$$$ to stop this (and considering the programming is taking place in russia, I'm not sure what recourse tehy truely have...)

As much as we all hate it, the axim is dead, and will slowly go the way of the dodo, WM6 is only postponing the inevitable, and in the end it will be futil, even if every single axim owner out there bought a lisence (which tehy, obviously, wont) your profits will eventually stop. dead. and you will be left with worthless code and, dep on how they're sold, possibly quantities of worthless lisences.

What I think, though, would kick this project into overdrive, and gain interest, is a petition to make dell reopen production of the Axim. Especially if we coudl somhow get media coverage for it. Do not underestimate the pwoer of dirty laundry, it makes the impossible happen. I dont suppose anyone on here is a news reporter are you? *evil grin*
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Ashton, your argument was good until the recent HP release of the 200 series PDA. It's almost the X51v (specs say it's just a bit slower) so investing in the Dell line doesn't look so good. Take a look at this line and see if you still want to invest in your 50/51.
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Old 09-08-07, 11:21 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Essentially, football has done what dell and microsoft haven't. I don't know why MS haven't snapped him up. Dell don't want to know and M$ are probably waiting for something that they can latch onto so they can claim footballs work.
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