Thinking about it, there is no real need for WM6 on the axim... I'd rather spend my hard earned money on a new machine equal to or better than my axim when she finally goes to PDA heaven.
Ashton, your argument was good until the recent HP release of the 200 series PDA. It's almost the X51v (specs say it's just a bit slower) so investing in the Dell line doesn't look so good. Take a look at this line and see if you still want to invest in your 50/51.
The only thing it doesnt have is the dedicated GPU...
Looks like I'll be selling off my spare axim and when my main dies I'll be getting an ipaq200!
...am I reading it properly? does Chris's review say it has a USB root Host!?!?!?!?
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don't forget the license fee of:
bluetooth (except you use MS exclusively)
pocket office (except it's included)
and this distribution should have 4 versions
X50
X50v
X51
X51v
and this distribution ROM should have rollback support just in case
since my X51v died, the only model can take WM6 upgrade is X50v
we also need a dedicated development team to work out bugs and issues
Thinking about it, there is no real need for WM6 on the axim... I'd rather spend my hard earned money on a new machine equal to or better than my axim when she finally goes to PDA heaven.
X50 and X51 (including VGA models) bluetooth is version 1.2 with problematic TI chip, while newer HP models will have 2.0 (and hopefully CSR), as well as wifi b/g, and on top of that, SD-HC support
currently I found X51v new on ebay is nearly $500 shipped, I'd get HP 210 (it's said it'll be $550)
don't forget the license fee of:
bluetooth (except you use MS exclusively)
pocket office (except it's included)
and this distribution should have 4 versions
X50
X50v
X51
X51v
and this distribution ROM should have rollback support just in case
since my X51v died, the only model can take WM6 upgrade is X50v
we also need a dedicated development team to work out bugs and issues
Correct, but you forgot one - the SDK for the 2700 GPU. That is supplied by Intel and you'd need a license for that as well.
In addition to all of the above, your ROM release would have no executable applications initially unless you licensed them from the respective software owners.
An OS for a PDA does not just consist of SW from MS - there are all of the 3rd party modules that are needed like the wireless (BT & WiFi utils) graphics controller libraries, battery charge controller routines, sound DSP controller libs, etc.
You would need to cut agreements (more $$) with all the owners of that IP (intellectual property) just to include it in the final ROM.
Doing a 'legal' ROM is a full time project that needs to be planned from all angles.
I fell like if we bought the WM5 and WM6 is a 5.2 WM release we could just think that
it´s just a free upgrade, and thanks football for the great work that dell couldn´t do by themselves (sorry bad typing/english... dog accident today)
Hello, ericksonik. May I suggest reading that post about WM6 at the top of the forum? :)
It's a bit like saying that, because Windows Vista is basically Windows XP the next revision, as Win98 was Win95 OSR 2 with some extra upgrades, that it was perfectly okay to download it without getting a license for the program....
In the end, you need an SDK to do the WM6 stuff legally, which is where we're getting tripped up.
I fell like if we bought the WM5 and WM6 is a 5.2 WM release we could just think that
itīs just a free upgrade, and thanks football for the great work that dell couldnīt do by themselves (sorry bad typing/english... dog accident today)
Why are you polluting this thread with this rhetoric? If you had read the first couple of posts to this thread, you would have seen that WM6.0 is NOT a free upgrade. Don't fool yourself...The version of WM6.0 that you refer to is illegal and discussion of that ROM is not allowed on this forum. Further debate about this will not be tolerated in this thread.
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If it's called WM5.2 then it's free from WM5, itf it's called WM6.2 it's free from WM6, if it's called WM6 it's not free from WM5 (despite how minor the upgrade it, MS has changed the lisence to make sure you PAY for WM6) I do agree, but unortunately MS wants to squeeze a little more blood from us.
This may sound silly, but have any of you considered working instead on handhelds.org's familiar project? no lisence fees for any of it because it's open-source. Already the Ipaq HX7200(?) has full support, X50v and X51v have some limited support, but are not useable yet. Consierint the $$$$$ this might be a better direction to take.
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my 2 cents, 3rd party apps make up for the lack of Dell & M$ updates, most of them free, the goods one less than $20 dollars, so I say ill ride my WM5 x51V till it dies, the HTC Shift ( or whatever is hot at the moment) looks to be it's replacement when my axim dies in an expected 2 years
I heard the Shift is a UMPC, not a PDA. Is that correct? If so, unless drastic improvements have been made over the Vaio UX, Samsung Q1, and OQO, I highly doubt the shift will be a viable PDA replacement...
And MS is releasing updates, the manufacturers just arent passing them out like they should. Every few weeks I get an email from MS saying that a new AKU is out for WM6 (and previously WM5)
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"There is a differance between living and existing. Existing is sitting, waiting patiently for death. Living is meeting thantos' scythe with your own blade" --- Original
Blackberry 7510 + operamini + $10 boost mobile = unlimited internet on BB w/o $40 BIS plan! (no email though)
and then you'd have support issues.. "I paid for it and it doesn't do X... I want my money back."
Exactly this issue is what has been brought up in my private discussions with some other MVP's. My answer is just the following: "let's sell WM6 licenses as-is, without any support / moneyback guarantee". This would help a lot MS to, finally, work out a legalization model for home-made upgrades.
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