guys i already own dell axim x50 advance but i have a little problem with that unit . any way i want to just buy another pocket pc ,........wut would be best choice.. i really do love x50 now since i am having trouble decided. to buy another one ...........just tell me should i go again with x50 ...or is there any better pda;s out there...........wut about hp ipaq 4700 ?? .. can someone help me here to get a better pda .. if i dont find any good ones. .i wil just buy x50 .. coz i do like dell .. x50 its pretty good :-) ............ specially the microfone.. it works so crystall.. clear. :-) plus the headpone .......
so plz guide me .. any pda with bluetooth .. and wifi .. a fast .. pda .. i looked at ipaq. the one i mentioned . is it better then x50 >
wut about x50v ?? hwo is the battery life .. wut are the batter difference between x50 and x50v ........
can someone point me any good pda .. if not dell some other .. >> thanx alot
Offhand I'd say that if you're satisfied with the X50 then getting another one would not be a bad idea if you can find one - say on eBay or something. If you are satisfied with the features of WM2003 (as I am right now) then you could probably save some bucks sticking with the X50. As for "better" ... I doubt you're going to find anything built any better. I've had my unit for nearly 3 years now and it's physically working as well as it ever did. I don't even use screen protectors. The screen has minor wear on it but nothing that's visible unless I look at it under a bright light at a certain angle. This unit has been extremely durable.
By the time I wear this guy out it might be necessary for me to get something else but if I were shopping right now I'd probably try to get an X50/X51 still.
I would wait and get a HP 210 when they are available in October of this year. The indicated price is $450 which is not bad for WM6 OS and the hardware features of a X51V combined. Just make sure that the HP 210 has 128mb of ram. If its lower then I would consider getting a X51V from some place like ebay or Amazon.
I would wait and get a HP 210 when they are available in October of this year. The indicated price is $450 which is not bad for WM6 OS and the hardware features of a X51V combined. Just make sure that the HP 210 has 128mb of ram. If its lower then I would consider getting a X51V from some place like ebay or Amazon.
HP 200 series will only have 64mb RAM from the specs they have currently provided - actually it'll have the same specs as the x51v, but with WM6, a slightly bigger screen (4"), mini usb port, bluetooth 2.0 and WiFi b/g with WPA2 security.
so r u saying that hp211 is better then x50 cell..........
wut about the mutimedia of hp 211...... i mean microfone and speak ..
coz dell has a nice microphone i use agile messenger.. voice.. and my voice goes pretty clear to my friends.. u think hp 211 would be crystal clear as well >> with nice headphone quality as well ?? ..
thanx Codebubba i think u are right ........x50 is still rock solid.. i think x50 has a better life battery .. i think x50 is better then x50 v or x51 or x51v.......
x50 doesnt take much power.........
well i used my 2400 mAh batter.......... with my x50 .. . i used wifi for straight 12 hours :-) ..that was amazing
but now these guys are pointing out the hp 211 wuts up with that .. is it better then x50 dell 520 Mhz
so r u saying that hp211 is better then x50 cell..........
wut about the mutimedia of hp 211...... i mean microfone and speak ..
coz dell has a nice microphone i use agile messenger.. voice.. and my voice goes pretty clear to my friends.. u think hp 211 would be crystal clear as well >> with nice headphone quality as well ?? ..
Whoops, maybe I didn't come clear as I intended to be. Sorry.
The hardware specs for the hp 200 series appears to be exactly the same as the Dell Axim x51v (VGA, microphone, speaker, 256mb ROM, 64mb RAM, etc.) However, the HP 200 series also has Bluetooth 2.0 (I think it's 1.1 on x51v), WiFi b/g with WPA2 security (only WiFi-b with WEP - no WPA2 on x51v), WM6 and 4.0" screen (3.7" on x51v).
So, overall, it has a little more bells and whistles than the x51v. And the x51v has a little more bells and whistles than the x50.
If I was looking to replace my x51v, I will most likely tilt towards the HP 200 series. Unfortunately, I'm basing all this on the current specs that HP has provided on their site. So it's wait and see at the moment.
Edit: the 'v' series Axims have VGA (640x480) and 624mHz opposed to QVGA (320x240) and 520mHz on mid-end Axims. For me, QVGA looks 'awful/dreadful' compared to VGA. I think battery life 'suffers' because of this as well.
Last edited by NeoGrandizer; 09-09-07 at 12:46 AM.
i know i dont like QVGA.........i have x50 so i have QVGA .. i dont really like the screen............ now thats the thing if i were to use x50v or x51v..it would be different for the battery life .. now see my x50 can run up to 12 straigth hours with wifi on .....................using 2400 mAh lion original battery ......
if i use the same battery for x50v..it might last till about 8 or max 9 hours ..
so there is the differenc . when u compare the power ........... it takes alot from battery .. the x51v or x50 v............... but x50 is more reliable it works good .. so there are some good points about x50 .........but i gotta tell you .. i love the VGA on x50v . oh well ............wut about hp 4700??? its got 4 inch screen size???
i know i dont like QVGA.........i have x50 so i have QVGA .. i dont really like the screen............ now thats the thing if i were to use x50v or x51v..it would be different for the battery life .. now see my x50 can run up to 12 straigth hours with wifi on .....................using 2400 mAh lion original battery ......
if i use the same battery for x50v..it might last till about 8 or max 9 hours ..
so there is the differenc . when u compare the power ........... it takes alot from battery .. the x51v or x50 v............... but x50 is more reliable it works good .. so there are some good points about x50 .........but i gotta tell you .. i love the VGA on x50v . oh well ............wut about hp 4700??? its got 4 inch screen size???
Hi kenkefwan,
Unfortunately, I can't help you there with hp4700. The x51v is my first PPC (I was a long time Palm user). If you're very happy with the x50, then a second hand one may be your best choice. Either that, or you could check the HP 100 series which is probably comparable to the x50.
I could be wrong in this. But I think because of the higher processor and slightly larger screen with VGA resolution, you will definitely see a significant battery drain (there's no escape from that). The battery will drain alot quickly if it went full tilt at 624mHz @ 640x480 resolution (3.7" screen) compared to 520mHz @ 320x240 resolution (3.5" screen).
Even if set on auto, you still have to remember that the 'v' series' processor can still clock as high as 624mHz, powering a slightly larger screen and resolution, thus draining the battery significantly. A 520mHz and 320x240 (3.5" screen) uses much less power comsumption compared to the above and thus will definitely have a longer battery life.
That's why you'll see a significant battery drain between the 2 models.
I guess in simple terms, the 'v' series has a higher power consumption because of it's higher processor, slightly larger screen and (4x) higher resolution.
I guess in simple terms, the 'v' series has a higher power consumption because of it's higher processor, slightly larger screen and (4x) higher resolution.
That's the primary reason I went with the X50/520 with QVGA rather than going with the VGA. I suppose having the VGA might be "nice" - but in my particular case it was a tradeoff that I didn't want to make. At the time I bought my unit (nearly 3 years ago now) I was reading the forums here a lot and noticed the majority of the "glitches" were with the 'v' units. Most of the complaints I read pertained to battery life and software compatibility. The only reason I could see having VGA in a 3.5" form-factor would be the smoothing of the fonts, perhaps. As for the "true VGA" mode I don't think I'd use it much - my aging eyes find QVGA-sized stuff just right in a device this size. For me if I want higher content it's better to go with a larger monitor rather than cramming everything into smaller real-estate.
Offhand I think that's the major reason that you don't see VGA in small form-factor devices very much. As much as everybody here likes it - we are not the norm around here - we're generally the "power users". I haven't yet run into anyone off this board that has expressed dissatisfaction with the QVGA format in a device that size - most people don't want to look at a screen that tiny with stuff they can barely read. The fact that most manufacturers still produce QVGA is pretty strong testament to that limitation. You can only go so far with the human interface before you're too small. Same thing with keyboards. Sooner or later you just get to a point where you need to stop shrinking before it becomes unusable to the average-sized human being!
Having said all that - I'm not against the VGA devices - I'm just saying that it's something that needs to be evaluated. Is the extra real-estate being crammed into a 3.5" screen going to give you something significantly better - better enough to accept low battery life and occasional software compatiblity issues? If so ... go for it. If not ... QVGA works fine! I'm still impressed by the clarity of the screen this Axim presents even as a QVGA. I have considered the possibility myself of going to a VGA device just for the pixel-smoothing effect - but when I find out what I give up in terms of battery life, etc. then it becomes less important. Maybe if they fix the power-drain problem and a VGA device can run 6 hours on a battery I'll buy one of those. Until then, though ... I'll just sit tight awhile.
Maybe it's because I come from before there were personal computers in the first place ... so I'm not quite as "picky" as all you young'uns! ;)
The original poster was asking if he needed to upgrade to the VGA unit to replace something he said was working perfectly well for him (aside from a hardware issue). To that I say yes or no. Yes if you're trading up because you really WANT the VGA, No if you're just trying to get back into the same thing you got without having to cough up too much $$ and wonder about compatibility with what you are already using and happy with. Maybe WM5 (or WM6) will run all your favorite stuff - maybe not. Maybe VGA will help, maybe not.
The original poster was asking if he needed to upgrade to the VGA unit to replace something he said was working perfectly well for him (aside from a hardware issue). To that I say yes or no. Yes if you're trading up because you really WANT the VGA, No if you're just trying to get back into the same thing you got without having to cough up too much $$ and wonder about compatibility with what you are already using and happy with. Maybe WM5 (or WM6) will run all your favorite stuff - maybe not. Maybe VGA will help, maybe not.
-CB :D
Hi CB,
Yeah, I went OT regarding power consumption (sorry about that). I thought an explanation regarding power consumption would help the OP.
Unfortunately for me, I can't seem to switch back and forth in resolution. If I go from higher resolution to lower resolution, I actually get eye strain for no reason. I also have 'bad' eyes. :rolling:
Well, it seems the OP is quite happy running a x50 and 2003se. So, the likely thing would be to shop second hand as I doubt there will be any 'new' devices in the market that would come with an old OS (like desktops/notebooks preinstalled with Vista - no XP).
Otherwise, for 'affordabiltiy' I'd say check out the HP 100 or 200 series to see if any of them would fit the bill. They're probably the closest set of PDAs that will match and slightly exceed the hardware specs of the ('un'dead) Axim line.
thanx codebubba .. and thanx neo ,.. lol neo dont tell me ur eyes are stronger then mine .. u dont believe but my eyes are pretty good .. can see things even in dark time :-) .. any way as u said codebubba .. that v series had issues with software compatiability, i would worry about that later.. but the power usage on v series. .are like shooting a flying pegion .....takes alot out of battery,
that being said now lets talk about 3.7 active matrix screen high resolution..
its a bit bigger screen with high resolution so that means u will like seeing ur pda alot more then x50 coz it will suit ur needs specially a bit bigger screen is always welcome for ur needs, but let me tell you x50 has been really great no issues i still have problem with the unit .......let me tell you what it is - u know power red light comes up when u put it in the cradle? guess what mine is always stays on green no matter.......even in low battery charge .. if i try to charge it even with cradle or usb it always stays in green light ,, but it does get charged,,,,,,,
and sometime if the pda is on ,,, the red power button gets on and stays on for a while then goes back off .. while not charging .........this is driving me nuts but pda still works great and charges. too :-) other then that .. no issues..
i dont care about fixing it ,,,,,,,it still works great i will just use my pda as is,, when times comes i will just get another pda .. probably hp 210 ?
any way over all x50 is a good pda .. u can save so much battery power in x50 .......compare to other a bit high profile devices.
any way thanx guys,,
HP 200 series will only have 64mb RAM from the specs they have currently provided - actually it'll have the same specs as the x51v, but with WM6, a slightly bigger screen (4"), mini usb port, bluetooth 2.0 and WiFi b/g with WPA2 security.
The converged 600 series will have 128mb RAM.
Information just out indicated HP upped the RAM to 128mb. So given that the HP 211 is a perfect upgrade to a X51V with the WM6 installed. I myself would get one if and when my current X51V and its spare go down the drain. That is unless I get the PDA bug bite and just have to do it. Then some one (actually some two) are going to get a very good deal on my X51V's
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