Looking to upgrade to Axim X50v/X51v - Page 2

09-10-07, 09:11 PM

MatthewH12:

If your intent is to get a really good, capable PDA, the HP210, or used X51/50v will be better. You were already expressing a need to have something faster than the X5, and that's a 400MHz CPU. It is obviously not the same CPU, but something running at 200MHz doesn't seem to be performance oriented.

If you truly want a top filgiht Smartphone (PDA/Cellphone combination), wait for the next generation iPhone, and go with that, or even the current iPhone (assuming you are in the USA). If you are looking for a good PDA that will be good for a while yet, the HP210 should be fine, or even a X50v with a PPC Techs 128MB upgrade. I don't know if that is more cost effective than an HP210, though; it sort of depends on what you get the X50v for.

The graphics chip in the X50v, and probably does halp some, when software is written for it. However, not all software is. As a comparison, the iPhone is a real powerhouse, with 3 CPUs and a graphics chip also incorporated. The real question with the iPhone is when useful third party applications will begin to show up, and when the next generation iPhone will be turned loose by Apple. I am of the opinion that the next generation cell phone will address the current hardware concerns (no memory card slot, no HSDPA, 16GB of on board Flash. etc,). A lot of the current software complaints will be addressed by software updates.

Real question for you is: What do you want your device to do?

Kostas

MatthewH12 · 09-10-07, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by KostasK

MatthewH12:

If your intent is to get a really good, capable PDA, the HP210, or used X51/50v will be better. You were already expressing a need to have something faster than the X5, and that's a 400MHz CPU. It is obviously not the same CPU, but something running at 200MHz doesn't seem to be performance oriented.

If you truly want a top filgiht Smartphone (PDA/Cellphone combination), wait for the next generation iPhone, and go with that, or even the current iPhone (assuming you are in the USA). If you are looking for a good PDA that will be good for a while yet, the HP210 should be fine, or even a X50v with a PPC Techs 128MB upgrade. I don't know if that is more cost effective than an HP210, though; it sort of depends on what you get the X50v for.

The graphics chip in the X50v, and probably does halp some, when software is written for it. However, not all software is. As a comparison, the iPhone is a real powerhouse, with 3 CPUs and a graphics chip also incorporated. The real question with the iPhone is when useful third party applications will begin to show up, and when the next generation iPhone will be turned loose by Apple. I am of the opinion that the next generation cell phone will address the current hardware concerns (no memory card slot, no HSDPA, 16GB of on board Flash. etc,). A lot of the current software complaints will be addressed by software updates.

Real question for you is: What do you want your device to do?

Kostas

Maybe if I list what I want it to do, you guys can give me a lot more detail at what is best for me, you guys have been great so far, and I really thank you!

I mainly use the X5 for games, though I think having a phone built in would be cool, plus a WM powered phone can do a lot more than a standard phone (I currently have a Razr V3t). I am looking for a PDA/PDAPhone that is Windows Mobile powered because I have so many PPC apps & games and I like the way WM works. I asked about the Wing specifically because it is a PDAPhone and I am a T-Mobile subscriber and I like their service (it's cheap!), plus i'm in a contract so I can't really switch to another provider.

I'm a bit tight on money, and that wing its self at almost $300, is a bit higher than I wanted to spend, especially if it's very slow, though if it would do what I want, I could probably find the money. I do like how it is a touch-screen pda and a phone, as I have wanted one of those for awhile, but sadly they are A, expensive, and B, have much slower CPU's than stand-alone PDA's. Plus, I worry about keeping the screen in good shape, since I just toss my phone in my pocket most of the time, except when i'm using it. So while I have wanted a touch-screen PDAPhone for a long time, I don't know if it is really worth it.

So I ask, what would be the best thing for me to get? Is the x50v a good idea, because it's so much faster and has the Intel2700G graphics, or should I go with a PDAPhone like the wing because I have wanted one for so long? The wing seems very nice, its just the CPU speed that worries me.

I really want the HTC Kaiser / T-Mobile MDA Vario III, but it's not avaliable thru T-Mobile in the US yet. :(

BTW, my x5 is the low-end, i think its 300Mhz?

--Matt

09-12-07, 01:24 PM

MattH12:

You seem to want something fast with PDA type capabilities, and you have a lot of Windows Mobile software licenses. You should check your software licenses to make sure that they would still be usable under the new devices OS. Some PDA software licenses stay usable, even though the WM O/S changes, or the software goes through multiple updates (PDAmill games, for example). Other licenses do expire, as in Pocket Mechanic (free upgrades for all minor revisions, ie. 2.2 to 2.4) but need to be re-purchased when there is a major revision (2.X to 3.X). The point of all this is for you to make sure that you understand how much of your current software can be brought forward to a new device (whatever WM device you go with), as the new device would probably be on WM5 or WM6.

I would go with a used X50v myself, and make sure that it is on WM5/A02. I am quite happy with mine, the A01 was sort of buggy, with all the interface lags. My reasoning is that you should be able to get an X50v for less than an X51v, speed should be comparable, you have the graphics chip, and the VGA screen would be really nice to have over an X50 or X51. The step up will be noticeable, as will the better screen, especially for the games that seem to be your primary use.

Kostas

MatthewH12 · 09-12-07, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by KostasK

MattH12:

You seem to want something fast with PDA type capabilities, and you have a lot of Windows Mobile software licenses. You should check your software licenses to make sure that they would still be usable under the new devices OS. Some PDA software licenses stay usable, even though the WM O/S changes, or the software goes through multiple updates (PDAmill games, for example). Other licenses do expire, as in Pocket Mechanic (free upgrades for all minor revisions, ie. 2.2 to 2.4) but need to be re-purchased when there is a major revision (2.X to 3.X). The point of all this is for you to make sure that you understand how much of your current software can be brought forward to a new device (whatever WM device you go with), as the new device would probably be on WM5 or WM6.

I would go with a used X50v myself, and make sure that it is on WM5/A02. I am quite happy with mine, the A01 was sort of buggy, with all the interface lags. My reasoning is that you should be able to get an X50v for less than an X51v, speed should be comparable, you have the graphics chip, and the VGA screen would be really nice to have over an X50 or X51. The step up will be noticeable, as will the better screen, especially for the games that seem to be your primary use.

Kostas

I think thats what I'm going to do, because the speed of the wing bothers me, and i'm not quite sure yet, if i'd want a PDA sized device as a phone, especially considering my current phone is a razr :P. Most of the licenses I believe are Owner Name based, so i'm not too concerned about that.

Edit: Everytime I make up my mind, something else arises: HTC Juno coming to T-Mobile as Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional slider with TouchFLO
If what I am reading / seeing is right, it is a touch-screen based PDA, that slides down for a number pad, and to the side for a qwerty keyboard. That sounds pretty sweet!

Thanks!

--Matt

hawtboi · 09-12-07, 11:20 PM

Any WM phone you get (if not most) can be unlocked and used with any carrier. The good thing about it is that it's NOT illegal. However you will have to pay the full price for the phone.

hawtboi · 09-12-07, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by rlarson_mn

I would wait for the HP 210 due out this October. Its features WM6 vs WM5. It has a 4" vga screen and CF plus high speed SD card slots. 128mb of ram and 256mb of rom. Sure makes me think of upgrading sooner than later. If you still want a pre-existing unit of X50v or a X51V I would suggest the X51V.

I would too.

Menneisyys · 09-13-07, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by rlarson_mn

I would wait for the HP 210 due out this October. Its features WM6 vs WM5. It has a 4" vga screen and CF plus high speed SD card slots. 128mb of ram and 256mb of rom. Sure makes me think of upgrading sooner than later. If you still want a pre-existing unit of X50v or a X51V I would suggest the X51V.

I wish it had a 3D accelerator...

MatthewH12 · 09-13-07, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by Menneisyys

I wish it had a 3D accelerator...

My biggest problem is cost. The x50v can it about $150-200, the wing is about $300, the x51v can be $400+, and the HP 210 will probably be at least $350-400, if not $500. I can't afford anything really expensive, $200 is about my limit, and I probably shouldn't even spend that much heh.

--Matt

MatthewH12 · 09-15-07, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewH12

My biggest problem is cost. The x50v can it about $150-200, the wing is about $300, the x51v can be $400+, and the HP 210 will probably be at least $350-400, if not $500. I can't afford anything really expensive, $200 is about my limit, and I probably shouldn't even spend that much heh.

--Matt

Thanks everybody for your input, I won an Axim X50v off of eBay earlier this weekend, thanks to your suggestions!