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Old 09-11-07, 09:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there anything that allows you to use something like the regular windows swap file?

I'm using an x51v
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Old 09-11-07, 10:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Perhaps this link will help you out:

Smartphone & Pocket PC Magazine Expert: Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - The WM5 RAMDisk, compatible with (almost) every WM5 device, is here!
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Old 09-12-07, 03:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That acually uses memory not creates memory
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Old 09-12-07, 06:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Welcome to the site, hawtboi :)

A swapfile - nice idea, but I've never heard about it for an ax.
The only way is to put as much as you can on the SD card inclusive dll's - but that's a little off topic, maybe

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Thanks for the Welcome.

Julie: I'm looking to use ramdisks as the do USE a lot of RAM permanently while loaded. What I'm looking for it to double my RAM without adding more physical RAM.

I was thinking that swapping to a flash card should work fine.
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Old 09-12-07, 11:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Then I think you might find the link I provided to be interesting reading. I have not tried the procedure on any of my pocket pcs. The procedure may only work when main memory is used (not a storage card) and it is not a permanent solution. That is, you would need to set it up whenever you perform a soft reset, but it is the only way I have discovered that might do what you are trying to do.

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Definitely an interesting reading (not counting the bad grammar). But does it FREE up RAM (main memory)?
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Originally Posted by hawtboi View Post
Definitely an interesting reading (not counting the bad grammar). But does it FREE up RAM (main memory)?
You'll have to get used to bad grammar - we are a few here who do not have English as our native tongue - but we do speak 3 or more languages



I don't think there is such a thing as a swap file for the ax, but if somebody knows - it's Menneisyys <---- just click on his name here :)



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There is no such thing as virtual memory for Windows Mobile, prerequisites are not implemented, is not up on the priority list and isn't much likely to be.

Windows Mobile Developer blog entry on the subject:
Windows Mobile Team Blog : Paging Dr. RAM
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Originally Posted by Zaniax View Post
I don't think there is such a thing as a swap file for the ax, but if somebody knows - it's Menneisyys <---- just click on his name here :)
Thanks :)

1. unfortunately, the OS itself doesn't support paging and swapping. (Yeah, the creators of Windows Mobile did have to reduce the size of the core. The virtual memory controller does eat up a lot of memory; this is why it's, generally, not utilized in low-RAM devices like Windows Mobile ones).

2. There are very few apps that do support in-app swapping (for example, some picture viewers / editors; most importantly, Conduits Pocket Artist; some other pic viewer apps also do file system caching to free up memory as can be seen in my related article at Picture viewers/editors for the Pocket PC platform ), but this caching is VERY slow and, generally, prretty unreliable.

3. all in all, what you ask for is not possible.
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Thanks, Menneisyys, for responding to this thread and clearing it up (for me, anyway:)).

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What about a program like there was back in the days of DOS/Windows 3.1? There was a program called QEMM that loaded before windows to do the memory managment.
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Originally Posted by hawtboi View Post
What about a program like there was back in the days of DOS/Windows 3.1? There was a program called QEMM that loaded before windows to do the memory managment.
Hey! you are really dating yourself! (I used that program extensively with a software product I supported......)
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I truely enjoy dating myself ;)

I use to use it on my own computer until I couldn't anymore due to compatibility issues. :)
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What about a program like there was back in the days of DOS/Windows 3.1? There was a program called QEMM that loaded before windows to do the memory managment.
QEMM didn't offer true virtual memory (auto-swapping to / from HDD's) capabilities; it "merely" made UMB's available to programs.
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