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Old 11-05-07, 12:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question VGA vs. qVGA (y Axis) and 2.5" vs. 3.5" (X Axis) is there a sweet spot?

Ok,

This is similar to many of those "What Device Should I get" threads that always pops up.

But before I can make any determination as to what I want I would like some opinions on one factor that I'm weighing heavily in my decision: VGA.

I've currently got an X30 (mid) and love it (for the most part).

However I'm jonesing a bit for VGA. Most of the newer devices (especially the converged ones) that have VGA have a significantly smaller screen (2.5/2.8 etc).

Recently My Wife had (before she returned it) the DASH (qVGA). I put her games on it, only to find that she was still using my Axim. I asked her why. She said, its just more fun to play them on a bigger screen.

My question is does the VGA-ness take away any of the down side of a smaller screen. Can anyone post any screen shots that can give me a better idea of what I'll gain/loose going to VGA and/or smaller screen?

Like many people I'm looking at the HP 211 (gosh 4" and VGA if it ever appears). But the i-mate, and Glofiish are looking kinda nice too. Then again I'm not beyond looking at a used X51v?

Any thoughts, pictures, ideas, would be greatly appreciated.

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The HP 211 is at WM6 which from what I have read of its features is the only reason its better than a X51V that is at WM5 (ROM M17). I was very interested in the HP 211 until I upgraded my X51V beyond ROM M17. My thoughts are why spend the money to upgrade to the HP 211 when my X51V matches that unit perfectly (OS and features). So after finding the solution to go beyond ROM M17 with my X51V I invested in a second X51V (upgraded it to mirror my daily unit) and I am set.
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Worried That would be a good idea

rlarson_mn,

Well going with your option -- Correct me if I'm wrong but

#1: I'd be able to keep IR (the HP211 doesn't have it).

#2: I would be able to use SDHC? Hmm and of course WM 6.

The only other difference would be that
#3. The 211 has 128ROM while the X51v is still 64 (unless you do the PPC TEchs update).

but 64 may not be that bad an option if i get the big screen, IR and WM6?

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64mb of RAM is just fine for me but an update is possible to 128mb. I do use the IR and Windows Mobile 6 Classic is not an issue since the X51V is capable of doing a ROM upgrade to it with the correct files and process. Thats why I do not need a HP 211 any more I have all of its OS and features already.
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rlarson_mn,

Well going with your option -- Correct me if I'm wrong but

#1: I'd be able to keep IR (the HP211 doesn't have it).

#2: I would be able to use SDHC? Hmm and of course WM 6.

The only other difference would be that
#3. The 211 has 128ROM while the X51v is still 64 (unless you do the PPC TEchs update).

but 64 may not be that bad an option if i get the big screen, IR and WM6?

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Yeah that truly is a sucker because I love the universal remote feature in Dell Axim X51V! Other than that I would also suggest getting 128MB upgrade through PPC I did it in my x51v with ROM upgrade man that unit is just awesome! The only upgrade HP has is that its a 4inch screen which is also worth it in my opinion! Anyways good luck with which ever one you go with!
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Old 11-06-07, 09:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Clarification, Please. . .

Ok,

So only b/c they weren't answered directly I want to confirm what I had asked before regarding using the X51v (ROM post M17):

1. I can use SDHC?
2. I can use WM 6

And Would I be correct that the advantage of SDHC is the ability to use SD cards bigger than 4GB and transfer rate is faster?

Of course I'd have to purchase a legal copy of WM6 to accomplish this. And so if you add in the cost of a ROM Upgrade, the WM6 Rom and an used X51v I'm guessing it'll cost about the same as HP 211 (but not have all the functionality of an X51v).

Also does anyone have any thoughts on VGA on a smaller screen. Can someone post some thoughts and/or screen shots to give me an idea of what I'll be loosing/gaining going to VGA w/smaller screen?

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Ok,

So only b/c they weren't answered directly I want to confirm what I had asked before regarding using the X51v (ROM post M17):

1. I can use SDHC?
2. I can use WM 6

And Would I be correct that the advantage of SDHC is the ability to use SD cards bigger than 4GB and transfer rate is faster?

Of course I'd have to purchase a legal copy of WM6 to accomplish this. And so if you add in the cost of a ROM Upgrade, the WM6 Rom and an used X51v I'm guessing it'll cost about the same as HP 211 (but not have all the functionality of an X51v).

Also does anyone have any thoughts on VGA on a smaller screen. Can someone post some thoughts and/or screen shots to give me an idea of what I'll be loosing/gaining going to VGA w/smaller screen?

Thanks;

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Yeah the problem is there is no legal copy of WM6! However it is possible for you to go to WM x.0 just google it. And that will also support SDHC cards past 4GB. So you cost will be RAM upgrade, used Axim and 16GB SDHC Card!:approve:
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Cool QVGA vs. VGA - Discussion Found

While I never did get a good answer on the merits of smaller screen w/VGA vs. Larger with QVGA, I happened up on this thread over at Pocketnow.com (and by extention Mobil Yazılar: Pocket PC ve Palm ağırlıklı mobil teknolojiler sitesi).

Check out the discussion over these links. Very interesting stuff (and the X50/51 get mentioned a great deal).

VGA vs. QVGA for Video (Pocketnow.com)
Video: Is VGA Resolution Just a Novelty?


VGA vs. QVGA Pictures/non-video (Pocketnow.com)
Revisted: Is VGA Resolution Just a Novelty? - pocketnow.com Discussion

Overall VGA vs. QVGA (Mobily Azilar)
Mobil Yazılar: What is the difference between VGA and QVGA screens?: Pocket PC ve Palm ağırlıklı mobil teknolojiler sitesi

Unfortunately this doesn't help me yet determine if I really want/need VGA (though Like many of those in the article -- I think i need to actually see one (anyone in CT care to let me visit their X50/51 )).

Just thought I'd spread the knowledge

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P.S. Well it looks as thought my dream of getting an i-mate 7150 are dust as pdadb.net has it now as 'canceled'

P.P.S. If anyone can help me out on receiving my prize from winning the SPB prize pack back in October I would appreciate it. I've PMed Chris twice with no response :(
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Old 02-17-08, 04:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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For me, once you go VGA, there's no going back. (Especially if the VGA screen in question is that of the hx4700; it's so bright, vibrant, and just plain wonderful, not to mention that it doesn't have polarization issues when used in landscape mode!)

However, I don't know if the difference would be substantial on a screen smaller than 3.5".
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