I wondered how low the traffic of members frequenting the site had to get before you relented on this policy.
The idea of at least allowing discussion of how to fix bricked Axims is fine but I really think you shoot your authority or that of the moderators now by backtracking.
It looks to me as if cycling more traffic through the site got in the way of your principals on this one.
Either way you go, you will have issues and members defecting because of the change.
BTW, what is up with all the posts you make and not letting us reply here but putting a link to direct us to one of your other sites?
Very very sneaky and just a little frustrating as I am sure I am not the only one who this frustrates.
Sorry for the offtopic and if I sounded a little harsh but in this posts but principals are difficult to get back once you discard them.
The original policy banning the discussion was not a big deal to me but the about face is rather puzzling and disappointing, for the reasons above.
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I pretty much agree with your analogy. BUT, you are likening an "old" os (say WM5 on my x51v) to being obsolete, and it certainly is NOT. The only way I can see your analogy being accurate in this reference is if WM5 somehow turned irreparably corrupt on the device and the pda would not function at all because of that. Then and only then, would what you mentioned be the last resort. I don't really see upgrading to WM6 as a last resort in any other case. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it..."-- as quoted in your sigline.
Let me be clear here, I have no problem with people willing to risk bricking their pda because of the "need" (read want) to upgrade to WM6, it's just not something I'm willing to risk, especially since my pda works fine with the heavy use I give it on a daily basis since I got it almost a year and a half ago. JMHO
No WM5 definetly isnt obsolete, but 2003se on the x50v is getting there. I mean u can still use 2003se just fine, so thats the only error in my analogy.
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Hi guys,
I welcome your new decision.
until today I was reluctant to try the new WM6 because I was afraid of lack of support in case of trouble - but no more!
I would appreciate your guidance as to how to upgrade my x51v wm5 a12 device to wm6.
Hi guys,
I welcome your new decision.
until today I was reluctant to try the new WM6 because I was afraid of lack of support in case of trouble - but no more!
I would appreciate your guidance as to how to upgrade my x51v wm5 a12 device to wm6.
I believe you have to register at either of these sites to get at the download capability. Both WM6.1s work just fine. No issues with my X51V (which is what unit they are for ONLY). Faster and more stable than WM5 A12 from Dell. I have been running WM6 and now WM6.1 for the past 4 months.
As a footnote, I also agree that the traffic on this site has decreased simply due to others moving onto WM6 and finding nothing here of a resource moved on. Of course all of this is IMHO. :approve:
I was disappointed when I read that this site wouldn't allow discussion of the WM6.1 ROM's. I've been using the 'hacked' ROM's since Football's A17, basically following it from the beginning. To reply to hofshi, there's always been plenty of support, just not here. I've lost count of how many times I've flashed my X51v to upgrade to new versions, and I've never had a problem with it. If I did have any trouble, I know off the top of my head four forums where I could probably find my questions already answered.
Morally, I see it as at worst a light grey area; as srvctec pointed out, as there's no way to buy WM6.1 for my Axim, and Dell could/should have offered it as a free upgrade, anyway. We may as well have it.
Maybe a year or two from now I'll upgrade to a device that has (a licensed copy of) WM6.1 or 7 on it.
Ironically, I have a legal copy of Windows Vista sitting in my desk that I still haven't used to replace my trusty XP (and I have 2GB RAM, an overclocked X2 4200+, and an 8800GTS (also overclocked when I need it to be)).
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I didn't see the instructions at the sites you mentioned. I downloaded the .rar file and still didn't find the instructions.
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I wondered how low the traffic of members frequenting the site had to get before you relented on this policy.
The forum numbers are actually up 15% from 6 months ago. Had this move been made for traffic or numbers, I would allow files to be hosted here and require sign up in the forums to get to it. The judgement call I made initially to not allow discussion was one that basicly was the easiest to make and the one that covered my A&& legally. *ps. I just woke up. Sorry if I sound drunk.
Originally Posted by harpgliss
BTW, what is up with all the posts you make and not letting us reply here but putting a link to direct us to one of your other sites?
Very very sneaky and just a little frustrating as I am sure I am not the only one who this frustrates.
The posts here sending to another site is to help both the author and the readers follow the thread. When the version of the mobilitysite post was replicated in the forums with the ability to comment, there was no notification to the author that there was a question or coment to their post. Having the posts allow comment both on MObilitysite, the original source and the forums made things confusing, so we are discussing mobilitysite news posts on the comment section of the post. I had considered not replicating these posts in the forums all together, but there are many that like to be notified in the forums that there is new content on Mobilitysite.
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The idea of at least allowing discussion of how to fix bricked Axims is fine but I really think you shoot your authority or that of the moderators now by backtracking.
It looks to me as if cycling more traffic through the site got in the way of your principals on this one.
Either way you go, you will have issues and members defecting because of the change.
I don't think the moderators' authority has been compromised in the least. Chris has always supported the moderators, and I believe he will continue to do so in the future. What blows a moderator's authority is inconsistency. We have consistently enforced the earlier policy ever since it was announced. I, and all the other moderators that discussed this change, are glad that the policy has been loosened.
At the time the retricted policy was enacted, other websites and forums had received C&D letters. We enacted the policy to protect Chris and the forum. Since that time, we have observed that forums and websites that have embraced these questionable ROMs have continued rocking along with no serious consequences. While we are not prepared to embrace these ROMs (no hosting of them), we do not wish to turn away users who need help (I, personally, have closed some of these threads, and it really hurts to do that).
Originally Posted by harpgliss
BTW, what is up with all the posts you make and not letting us reply here but putting a link to direct us to one of your other sites?
Very very sneaky and just a little frustrating as I am sure I am not the only one who this frustrates.
Chris announced this change and even posted a poll before he did it. Doesn't seem sneaky to me at all. Did you miss these posts?
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I agree with allowing support to those who have bricked their Axim with an illegal ROM and how to fix it back to a legal one. Similar to: I agree to help someone get off drugs.
I do not agree with supporting someone in the continued use of the illegal ROM. Similar to; I do not agree to help someone continue in their use of the drugs.
I think we are missing the point of ownership and those placed in charge of that ownerships rules. This site is owned and operated by Chris. Any rules are set by Chris any way it is his desire. This site has been a valuable site for many many new and experienced PDA users what found themselves with a Axim no matter what model. As a member of this site and one that has been given great advise and given that advise back to others I support any and all of the rules Chris puts forth. It is his and other moderators plus site visitors that together have made this site so successful. Any one taking advantage of this site needs to follow its rules no matter what they are, which is what I have done in the past and intend to do in the future.
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I just watched the tutorial on how to upgrade the ROM using an SD card without the PDA being connected through active sync. It looks pretty straight forward but my PDA will not do a hard reset at the moment and I am concerned that I may be stuck with a bricked PDA if I try to upgrade to WM6 and cannot do a hard reset. (When I try a hard reset now the screen flashes away too quickly to allow me to press the required key to confirm the hard reset). I was advised in another post that I may need to reflash the ROM but can I do this using the SD card as I cannot find the USB connector for my AXIM.
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