It's incredible. Here's the short story: I soft reset with nothing starting up. I go to memory settings and watch as the available program memory decreases by .01 MB per 1 to 1.5 seconds. I can literally watch it tick down.
Here's the longer story. I got my 50v and installed the programs I had on my x5, updating some programs on the way. I realized, using the pda for a few hours, that the memory would dwindle down to nothing. I had wisbar advanced 2, dashboard 2, journal bar, new avantgo, memmaid, tweaks2k2, etc. I did put a lot on it, and tweaked it before I realized things weren't right.
I first cleared off journal bar from loading, since I read it was infamous for memory leakage. When that didn't stop, I cleared off dashboard and wisbar. I have a CF card and an SD card plugged in. I don't know where all the memory is going. I will soon have to a hard reset and try it from scratch, to see if it does that then, but I have to go on a trip tomorrow, so it will have to wait. I very infrequently had to reset the x5, I have soft reset this one several times during the day.
Here's the result: I think it was Tengo keyboard that was sucking memory at an alarming rate, but with a twist. Only when I used tweaks2k2 to set it as the default keyboard, did that happen. I uninstalled tengo, the problem went away. I put it back on, the problem did not happen. I went to t2k2 and set it as default, and bingo- memory leaking like crazy. So I don't know if this is a problem with tengo or with tweaks2k2.
Thanks to those who looked and wrote or thought about it. Experience goes a long way.
When I first turn on my X50V, and do a soft reset, it shows 11.95mb in use. It stays there steady if I just let it go and watch it.
Now, if I open a few programs, say IE, calculator, word...then close them all using the running programs tab, stop them all...the in use only returns to 12.34mb. If I open say excel and windows media player and close them under running programs, the inuse only drops to 12.41mb. If I continue to open other apps, the in use continues to grow.
If I power the unit off and back on, the inuse is at 12.41. Only a soft reset return it to 11.95mb.
Definately seems like a memory leak when closing apps.
Any ideas or comments?
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When I first turn on my X50V, and do a soft reset, it shows 11.95mb in use. It stays there steady if I just let it go and watch it.
Now, if I open a few programs, say IE, calculator, word...then close them all using the running programs tab, stop them all...the in use only returns to 12.34mb. If I open say excel and windows media player and close them under running programs, the inuse only drops to 12.41mb. If I continue to open other apps, the in use continues to grow.
If I power the unit off and back on, the inuse is at 12.41. Only a soft reset return it to 11.95mb.
Definately seems like a memory leak when closing apps.
Any ideas or comments?
That's normal. In theory you can make it crash by opening and closing contacts often enough. You should expect some leakage.
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That's the way it works :) I wish I had a better explanation but whether it's Windows XP, Win2k, or Windows Mobile I expect memory leaks. That's why I reboot on a regular basis and soft reset on a regular basis.
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When you open and use programs - e.g. Pocket IE,
they do put some files into the main memory - e.g. IE cache,
so even if you close them, these cache files are not cleared
and take up memory space. That is to say, it's not really
a case of "memory leak". You can just clear off the cache
files from the program menu if it allows - e.g. IE options menu.
Originally Posted by mmreed
i am seeing something different...
When I first turn on my X50V, and do a soft reset, it shows 11.95mb in use. It stays there steady if I just let it go and watch it.
Now, if I open a few programs, say IE, calculator, word...then close them all using the running programs tab, stop them all...the in use only returns to 12.34mb. If I open say excel and windows media player and close them under running programs, the inuse only drops to 12.41mb. If I continue to open other apps, the in use continues to grow.
If I power the unit off and back on, the inuse is at 12.41. Only a soft reset return it to 11.95mb.
Definately seems like a memory leak when closing apps.
When you open and use programs - e.g. Pocket IE,
they do put some files into the main memory - e.g. IE cache,
so even if you close them, these cache files are not cleared
and take up memory space. That is to say, it's not really
a case of "memory leak". You can just clear off the cache
files from the program menu if it allows - e.g. IE options menu.
wouldnt that be storage memory in use... I am refering to Program memory in use.
It just seems very wrong to have such a constant and reproducable memory leak... I can understand and tolerate casual leaks but ones that drain every time an app is launched?!?!
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Microsoft's OSes are full of bugs and security problems, so you can expect problems. If it becomes a big enough problem then Microsoft will issue a fix otherwise you get to wait for a new OS upgrade, which may fix the problem. On a PPC device that usually means a new device. OS upgrades come with a new set of bugs and problems, a never ending circle with Microsoft.
Soft reset recovers the leaked memory. Don't sweat it. Soft reset is the PPC equivalent of Ctrl-Alt-Del and we all know how often THAT combo is used...
Sometimes you can get a bad program. With mine EVERY time I run Audio Reader from Audio.com, my memory gets less. I can use Memory Maid and see 5 or 6 of the Reader programs running, and even though I click on the "Terminate" button, they will not close. All I can do is after several times of using the program is to do a soft reboot and they go away and the memory comes back. I have contacted them, but have not gotten an answer yet.
Microsoft's OSes are full of bugs and security problems, so you can expect problems. If it becomes a big enough problem then Microsoft will issue a fix otherwise you get to wait for a new OS upgrade, which may fix the problem. On a PPC device that usually means a new device. OS upgrades come with a new set of bugs and problems, a never ending circle with Microsoft.
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Amen. Bring on Linux for the x50v! Actually, that's slightly unfair...Win2k was a huge leap forwards and my g/f's machine has been running for about 12 months now without a reboot. Quite amazing. My own XP machine runs for weeks without a reboot too. Of course, my Linux box is better again but, MS is getting better. :)
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