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Old 02-08-05, 03:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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.NET Framework

What is the latest version of .NET for the x50v.

I assume I have the latest for 1.0 running 1.0.4292.0

Is there a 1.1 version? If so what is the URL to download?
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Old 02-08-05, 09:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think the latest A02 ROM has 1.0 rev 3 on it., which is the latest release from MS.
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I had a check and X50v A02 is running .NET Compact Framework 1.0 SP2 Final (1.0.3316.0)

The latest I believe is .NET CF Runtime v1.0 SP3 released last month available from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Although I haven't updated mine!
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Can someone explain what this is and why we need it? ;)

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Originally Posted by zim2dive
Can someone explain what this is and why we need it? ;)

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Yes MS really did make it really confusing when they added .NET to anything!

The way I understand it, is that it is like Java.

Programs are compiled into an intermediate language (rather than direct processor codes for xscale, intel, arm etc.)

A compiler that is installed on the PDA converts this from the intermediate code to the code the processor understands.

The framework allows access to different parts of the OS such as window management, file management etc.

If I'm wrong please correct me!
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alander.. thanks, makes sense.

Next question... so we have _a_ version installed by default? (just not the very latest)

Also I noticed several apps out there saying users needed to install the framework.. which being new to this, implied to me that some people (on other devices?) might not have it pre-installed?

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yes i think on wm2003, definitely on wm2003se has .net cf framework installed, although for pocket pc 2002 you have to install it.

The Sp3 are fixes to certain issues, and because it got released last month it would have been a while after dell finished their rom update. (and even then, they may not of updated then)

As such, if you install sp3 it will take up more storage space 8|
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.NET Compact Framework 1.0 Service Pack 3 details:

Fixed Issues:
- Transitions between managed and native code can cause memory leaks on ARM platforms.
- A NullReferenceException is thrown when a Web Method returns an empty array using the xsi:Nil attribute.
- Modifying the SoapClientMessage.ContentType property does not modify the Http requests ContentType header.
- Stack corruption can occur on ARM platforms when local variables are created but never used.
- Invoking a multicast delegate from a catch handler throws a MissingMethodException on ARM platforms.
- Command line arguments containing double byte characters are truncated to a single byte.
- An ObjectDisposedException is thrown when a asynchronous web request is aborted before the response is received.
- Invoke on a disposed control hangs the application.
- Any array containing one or more elements is not sent to the Web Service correctly.
- An application may hang when invoking a Web Method that uses multiple XmlElementAttributes on a single argument, member or property.
- Memory corruption can occur on devices that have the native security model enabled and both .NET CF V1 SP3 and a pre-release version of .NET CF V2 installed.
- Deadlocks can occur when running under severe resource constraints.
- Tool Bar's on Windows Mobile 2003 SE no longer lose their images when removed from the form.
- An uncatchable ObjectDisposedException is thrown when the server closes the socket connection.
- Setting the Minimum and Maximum properties of a progressbar no longer crashes the application.
- Unexpected exception while adding an image to an imagelist on an Hx4700 and hx4705.
- Data Misalignment occurs on Decimal fields in MIPSIV devices.
- Data is missing or loaded incorrectly by DataSet.ReadXml() in some cases.
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Now its a long shot, but I wonder can any of this possibly help with any of the wireless flakiness that many people are seeing (ie. one could say the BT/Wifi refusal to turn on acts like some kind of resource constraint since freeing up memory seems to avoid the problem)....

yes I know its a long shot... but worth asking. (or would anything like that be using lower level calls, vs. this which if the Java analogy is correct is more like runtime interpretive code)

.. and gee, I've never heard anyone complain about memory leaks :)

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I thought that, but I would doubt it, Wifi and BT would have to be written in the native code as it needs to talk to the hardware dierctly, other parts of the O/S may use this I don't know.

My guess is that it is only for custom written programs that you install on the PDA.
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Originally Posted by zim2dive
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Now its a long shot, but I wonder can any of this possibly help with any of the wireless flakiness that many people are seeing (ie. one could say the BT/Wifi refusal to turn on acts like some kind of resource constraint since freeing up memory seems to avoid the problem)....

yes I know its a long shot... but worth asking. (or would anything like that be using lower level calls, vs. this which if the Java analogy is correct is more like runtime interpretive code)

.. and gee, I've never heard anyone complain about memory leaks :)

Mike
Thanks for the responses. The reason I asked in response to a message I was getting after I installed WIFI Grapher RC3. It stated I needed .NET 1.1.4xxxx. I have since installed it using the previously mentioned version 1.0.4 SP3 and everything works great. WiFi Grapher works without any issues. Yes I updated the .NET runtime after upgrading to A02.
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Actually, the .NET framework is the collection of runtime libraries used by anything that is compiled in Microsoft Visual Studio .NET, which includes C++ and Visual Basic.NET. So, if someone writes an application for your device in one of those languages, you'll need the framework installed on your device before you can use it.

The concept is simple and has been around for years. In the old days, an application would call upon certain DLLs so that every EXE on your PC or PDA didn't have redundant copies of the code compiled into the file, thereby wasting space. Nowadays, Microsoft just lumps it all together into the .NET framework, and they release updates to the whole thing instead of to one of the sub-components.

The current version is v1.1, and there's an update coming for it soon. When you install applications, read the literature carefully. It may require a particular version in order to run correctly on your device.
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