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Old 02-09-05, 07:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it just me or is anyone else not using any VGA tweeks?

I see no need to use them.

Happy with Native VGA all round.

What am I missing?
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Old 02-09-05, 07:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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In short... screenspace. If you not miss it why would you want it, afraid to miss out on a good thing :)

I only use it when I connect through RDP to our servers.

The rest.. ah well if it looks good .. who's complaining
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Old 02-09-05, 08:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I run my axim in real VGA mode 99% of the time. The only time I switch it back is for old games which haven't been updated yet.
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Old 02-09-05, 09:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't use true VGA unless I'm browsing... I find it too small to tap the right things! =(
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Old 02-09-05, 09:10 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't use any VGA hacks either. I found the hacks made things way too small. Anyway, in normal mode the (few) VGA games are fine, movies are fine, browsing in PIE is ok and seems to make use of the 640x480 screen.

It seemed like a case of "emperors new clothes", if you get the reference.
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Old 02-09-05, 10:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have been using true VGA on and off, also the Picard hack... but use it less iand less lately, since most progs and games hang or crash when in true VGA. But when browsing the net with IE or Net front 3 - true VGA is the only option, IMO
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I had the e805 when it first became available, and used the VGA hack 99% of the time. Then once SE was released, I quit using it. It is really just a pain in the butt, and gains very little over just plain old SE. I used it for about 6 months prior to getting my X50v, and haven't used it since.
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Old 02-09-05, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't bother and I am happy.
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Old 02-09-05, 12:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by frost
I have been using true VGA on and off, also the Picard hack... but use it less iand less lately, since most progs and games hang or crash when in true VGA. But when browsing the net with IE or Net front 3 - true VGA is the only option, IMO
What's the picard hack?? Am i missing something here?

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Old 02-09-05, 12:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi,


I do not bother with any VGA "hacking" software. I haven't even tried it to surf the net. From what I have seen, everything is too small. I am very happy with the screen the way it is. :approve: I would like to still be able to see when I get older.

But, everyone here has his/her own personal needs. :)
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99% of the time I use standard VGA mode. Once and awhile, I'll switch over to a 'real' VGA hack, just to feel the screen space, but I always end up switching back fairly quick. The start menu and a lot of other controls are just too small. If there was some setting halfway between the two, I'd probably use that, but I'm satisfied with normal VGA.
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Old 02-09-05, 02:47 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i use true vga only while browsing. the fonts are too small otherwise -- i hate having to be so precise with screen taps
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Old 02-09-05, 02:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Tried it, didn't like it (everything to small). AHven't used any since. So you are not alone.
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Old 02-09-05, 03:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You are not alone. I haven't tried but I have a couple tools to do it but probably won't ever get around to it though. I am happy with it as is.
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Old 02-09-05, 04:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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FWIW, I use the native screen settings except for surfing the Web and when I use Excel to track my budget, etc. Spreadsheets and internet surfing are all but useless on a Pocket PC without the added screen real estate, IMO.

The smaller stylus taps are a problem, but I just use my wireless keyboard and then it's not a big deal at all.

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Old 02-09-05, 06:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by boxall
I see no need to use them.

Happy with Native VGA all round.

What am I missing?
It's not just you. Probably most X50v users don't use the VGA tweaks while I would not be suprised if most users who visit this forum do use them. This site is just subset of all Axim owners.
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I tried the ozvga program, while it was nice for web browsing I found everything else too small. Maybe someone will come out with a way to easily make the fonts and other windows bigger without haveing to switch back and forth all the time. For now I'll stick with the native screen as it is fine for just about everything.
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Old 02-09-05, 07:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Superb. Feeling much better now :-)

I love it the way it is. Reliability is key!
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Old 02-09-05, 07:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Smaller = neater = better... if only all programs supported true vga.
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I use to be about 20% Real VGA, now I use it 90% of the time. The font size doesn't bother me at all. I use Excel & PDF files the most thru out my work day and it''s awesome. Like FSRGUY said Excel is useless on a PPC without True VGA. The tapping isn't an issue with me, except for that darn Switcher Bar. I'm not sure what you mean about reliablity, I've never had an issue. Except for the few programs I run that I have to switch to standard because of compatibilty.

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I use SE-VGA on my VGA themes and that's about it.
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Originally Posted by LarryNJ
I use to be about 20% Real VGA, now I use it 90% of the time. The font size doesn't bother me at all. I use Excel & PDF files the most thru out my work day and it''s awesome. Like FSRGUY said Excel is useless on a PPC without True VGA. The tapping isn't an issue with me, except for that darn Switcher Bar. I'm not sure what you mean about reliablity, I've never had an issue. Except for the few programs I run that I have to switch to standard because of compatibilty.



EXACTLY! The more words on the screen the better, and small always looks neat.
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Old 02-09-05, 11:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I see no need to use them.

Happy with Native VGA all round.

What am I missing?
Most people don't really understand that in general you don't need any "True VGA hacks" to get the benefit of the VGA resolution.

When your x50v is in native mode (i.e. without any "True VGA" hack), the display *is* VGA resolution, not QVGA, as you can see if you look closely to the fonts (you will not see the pixelling that you get on QVGA displays).

Most applications, including video players and image viewers will all take advantage of the VGA resolution in the native mode, which some people call "QVGA mode" (which, in fact, is really a *VGA* mode in which all the user interface elements, i.e. NavBar, Menus, buttons etc, are "zoomed-up" to prevent them from appearing smaller). For example, Betaplayer and PocketTV will display VGA video at true VGA resolution in the native mode.

If an application has not been modified to take advantage of the VGA resolution, the OS will at least increase the quality of the fonts, so there is a gain, i.e. smaller fonts will be readable.

Most application dealing with video and images have already been modified to take full advantage of VGA and they will display much finer details in the images, if the image or video resolution is higher than QVGA, naturally.

With games, it is more work for the developers, since they need to create new VGA-resolution bitmaps in order to take advantage of VGA, so it takes more effeorts to game developers, but in that case, no "True VGA Hack" can help either.

In fact, the "True VGA Hacks" should be called "UI shrikers", since that's what they do: They scale down all the UI (User Interface) elements and icons so that they appear twice as small (in vertical and horizontal size).

In some cases, "True VGA Hacks" are very valuable, especially with applications like document viewers, PIE, Excel, and the like, because you can see much more on your screen. But ideally this should not be necessary if those applications were able to take advantage of VGA better than by just making smoother fonts.

I have often found "True VGA Hacks" useful with PIE, for example. But in most cases, I vastly prefer the native mode, which allows to tap the screen with your fingers or nails (you NEED the stylus with "True VGA Hacks", because every control are very small).

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Originally Posted by boxall
I see no need to use them.

Happy with Native VGA all round.

What am I missing?
I guess it really depends what programs you run most of the time. Since all the apps I use regularly run better in "True VGA" mode than in standard mode, I practically never leave "True VGA" mode.

Landscape-- Try rotating the screen and opening an input panel or second toolbar...

Textmaker-- This application is IMHO crucial to have the extra resolution. Most of the real "Word Processor" features that come with the app are too clumsy to use with the large UI objects, things like tab stops, page preview mode, tables, customizable toolbars. With everything smaller, I can also view more toolbar items at once so I don't need to dig through menus all the time and interrupt my work. When I work with a keybaord in landscape, this also means the interface is small and out of the way. Here is a screenshot

eBooks-- Whether I'm using an eBook reader, or a specialized program like PocketBible, what matters to me is how much text is on the screen. I can get more with smaller bars etc.

Split Screen mode- ANY program with split-screen mode, such as book readers, or file explorers, is clumsy with normal VGA mode; the amount of dividers, toolbars, headers etc. is multiplied, squeezing the content even more.

IMHO the perfect solution would be something that is close to halfway between the standard and the hacked views, as it would be large enough to allow finger-manipulation, but still small enough it wouldn't gobble up too much space, but since the OS doesn't give us that choice (It should, in WinXP I can set toolbars etc. to whatever arbitrary size I want...) I'd rather go for the smaller of the two.
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Old 02-10-05, 01:07 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm quite happy with the vga out of the box. I've heard too many horror stories about itsy bitsy text... I'd rather not have to wear reading glasses just to see whats writen on my axim.
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