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Old 03-01-05, 04:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Backup versus synching. Whats the difference and how do you backup

I have had to do a hard reset several times and lost all my settings. Would doing a backup avoid this headache? How do you backup and restore? Is there one method that's better than another?
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Sprite Backup

The first program I got for my Axim(x5) was Sprite backup. Backing up via Activesync saves your PIM data and My Documents folder; but on hard reset, you have to re-install apps.
Backing up to a storage card means you can restore everything.
Sprite is great since the backup file can be an executable. Don't need the program to restore.
Plus you can control what you backup and restore individual files.
Also, you can backup to the desktop and restore from the desktop.

I back up daily to desktop and storage card. If I not on my home system, at least I backup to the storage card.
Sprite allows autonaming of backups so that I have two backups on my card.

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Thanks. That sounds great. I'll try that. Does backing up take the place of synching or do you have to do both?
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Actually, I believe in ActiveSync, if you choose the Full backup option, it will backup program data and sort of "mirror" your pda. Sprite is very good because it also keeps a status bar of power, storage capacity on yuor Today screen and allows writing to a SD card.
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Originally Posted by mmelgar
I have had to do a hard reset several times and lost all my settings. Would doing a backup avoid this headache? How do you backup and restore? Is there one method that's better than another?
You'll find Data Back up under Programs. It allows you to back up "all data" or "PIM databases only." And you can back up to Built-in Storage or to an SD card, nieter of which would be affected by a hard reset. You can also, of course, move the back up file to your PC.

I haven't bothered with it yet. I did a back up just before upgrading the ROM on my X30, but as many may recall, restoring caused problems with Windows Media Player which required another hard reset to fix.

My feeling has been that restoring after a hard reset restores whatever problem caused you to have to reset in the first place. On the other hand, i had to hard reset a week ago and still haven't gotten my Ax back the way I like it, so I'm rethinking my philosophy.

You cannot, apparently, selectively restore--it's all or nothing.
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Old 03-01-05, 04:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You'll find Data Back up under Programs. It allows you to back up "all data" or "PIM databases only." And you can back up to Built-in Storage or to an SD card, nieter of which would be affected by a hard reset. You can also, of course, move the back up file to your PC.

I haven't bothered with it yet. I did a back up just before upgrading the ROM on my X30, but as many may recall, restoring caused problems with Windows Media Player which required another hard reset to fix.

My feeling has been that restoring after a hard reset restores whatever problem caused you to have to reset in the first place. On the other hand, i had to hard reset a week ago and still haven't gotten my Ax back the way I like it, so I'm rethinking my philosophy.

You cannot, apparently, selectively restore--it's all or nothing.
While that sounds logical, in practice it hasn't held true. I have had problems that would stop happening just by doing a hard reset and restoring from a backup made just prior to the hard reset. Also if you keep a backup and have a problem from a bad installation of some software then it is soooo easy to go back to where you were before the install-gone-wrong. one of the best parts of Sprite is that it is so fast. only a couple of minutes to do the whole thing. definately worth the money.
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Big Dave,

....I am a new user of X50mid for two months. I have not purchased a back up program yet, although have seen Sprite as the BIG recommended backup software at this site. What is it that Sprite would do differently(other than selecting what you want to restore) than the OS backup? From your post, would you not have the same problem with either program...that is if you had a bad program install? How would Sprite be different?

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I'm hearing so much about this Sprite backup I'm gonna have to get me a copy.
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Big Dave,

....I am a new user of X50mid for two months. I have not purchased a back up program yet, although have seen Sprite as the BIG recommended backup software at this site. What is it that Sprite would do differently(other than selecting what you want to restore) than the OS backup? From your post, would you not have the same problem with either program...that is if you had a bad program install? How would Sprite be different?

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if you are really good about making backups before installing a new piece of software then Sprite is the best because it will literaly complete the whole backup in a couple of minutes and they you do the install and if it bombs out you can restore in just a few minutes and be back and running the way you were before. I haven't tried the backup program that comes with the x50 other than to create a backup, but not restore from it. When I did do a backup with the included one, it complained a lot and it doesn't let you put it on the pc either, only on the pda. Since I purchased Sprite I haven't felt the need to try anything else.
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Well as luck would have it, i did a backup this morning using the included program and then was doing some changes and low and behold I KILLED MY X50). hahahahah. So I used the OS program to do the restore and it worked just fine. So it appears that the biggest difference now between the Sprite pgm and the one that comes with the x50 is that Sprite can make .exe files, it can also do a backup to your pc and I am not sure if it backsup your bis. I still recommend Sprite but the included one isn't as bad as it used to be.
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Does the .exe file matter since, I guess, the built-in back-up programme is restored "automatically2 on the machine after hard reset?

Also, surely if you take the option to back-up (using the built-in one) to SD card you can copy whatever it produces over to your PC?

I'm trying to avoid paying for Sprite as my Axim is provided by work and they will not buy it for me!

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Does the .exe file matter since, I guess, the built-in back-up programme is restored "automatically2 on the machine after hard reset?

Also, surely if you take the option to back-up (using the built-in one) to SD card you can copy whatever it produces over to your PC?

I'm trying to avoid paying for Sprite as my Axim is provided by work and they will not buy it for me!
Having an exe file means that you can restore from your Axim without connecting to your PC (assuming you save the exe file to a memory card in your PPC of course!). If your Axim crashes when away from your office then you can restore and be going again in a couple of minutes. I'm off to Brazil tomorrow for a few days - any problem with the Axim and I'll restore from the last exe file (I set it to auto-backup every night at 3am - another benefit of Sprite).

Also, Sprite does lets you selectively restore just about anything. You don't have to completely restore if you accidentally delete a file / mess with a setting.
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Is there a way that I can backup the 51v to my desktop only? I don't have a storage card yet! I do synch however...I assume I'd not lose my PIM stuff with activesynch current, right?
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Hmm Not yet available for WM-2005!

Originally Posted by maddmatt
I'm hearing so much about this Sprite backup I'm gonna have to get me a copy.
Sprite has not released a WM-2005 version yet but they are hoping to have one by Christmas.

http://www.spritesoftware.com/
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Sprite Backup

Originally Posted by hc2
Actually, I believe in ActiveSync, if you choose the Full backup option, it will backup program data and sort of "mirror" your pda. Sprite is very good because it also keeps a status bar of power, storage capacity on yuor Today screen and allows writing to a SD card.
Sprite Backup works great. Saved my "buns" a couple of times! :approve:
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