Nyditot Virtual Display Beta Testers Wanted

[new2axim]

I got around to uninstalling v4.0 and installing 4.21 and I'm having issues.

Sometimes the screen will shrink up to 1/4 the size of my screen and sit in the top corner. Unfortunately, the touchscreen acts as if it's filling the screen.

I lose some of my graphics. I lose any instance of the "ok" circle at the top right, I lose the graphic of the windows "window pane flag" in the top left and the keyboard at the bottom not only visually disappears, but also seems to just leave me. With the "ok", I can successfully click it even though I can't see it. With the keyboard, I'm out of luck. If I need to type anything, I simply can't.

It's also permanently stretched my background image so even when I've disabled Virtual Display, my background is all pixelated and I'm only seeing one small portion of it on my screen.

I'm guessing that I've screwed something up having previously installed the other version and then uninstalled it. I'm going to try uninstalling this one, maybe even removing it from my PC, and then reinstalling it to see what happens.

[bigbop]

However, upon trying to remove the 96dpi pack, I get an error that \Windows\tshres.96.dll is in use and the uninstall is unsuccessful. I checked in running programs and there is nothing running.

Do a search for PHM utulities. he has a process viewer that I've used to kill individual background processes so I can remove s/w.

Also, the program screws up my screen when trying to run Mapopolis when any virtual display is enabled. I don't see how people ARENT reporting bugs left and right, I couldn't find one reliable mode...

If you go to the Mapopolis user forums on GPSPASSION, you will find info relating to 3rd party vga utils - they aren't compatible.

[nyditot]

biohzrd,

Yes, NVD must be installed in main memory. This is because NVD is actually a set of device drivers (low level software that control the hardware) that must be available very early during the boot process. Access to storage cards comes up later in the boot process and hence the necessary files would not be available when the OS needs them.

If you install the software using Cabinstl (an unsanctioned method) you will not see the warning but here is a quote from the README file that is presented during desktop installation along with a stern warning to read it:

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INSTALLATION FOLDER

The installation program will automatically start Microsoft ActiveSync which will download the files which are appropriate for your device. THIS SOFTWARE MUST BE INSTALLED IN MAIN MEMORY. DO NOT OVERRIDE THE DESTINATION FOLDER. DO NOT INSTALL TO A STORAGE CARD.
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J-D-Cronin,

I have not been able reproduce the popup menu issue but the code that control this function was tweaked in the final release (NVD 4.21) in a somewhat blind effort to remedy the issue. Please let us know if you see it in NVD 4.21.


Regarding third party software compatibility, like Mapopolis, etc., please contact the respective vendors and ask that they release a resolution aware version of their software. NVD works at the lowest levels of the operating system, fooling it into thinking the display is of some arbitrary size. It is up to the applications to use the resolution correctly. Many, if not most, do but some programs can "freak out" when the resolution is not the default.

[new2axim]

Hey there nyditot, is there any way to get 16x9 resolutions for the external display?

I've got my Axim attached to a widescreen LCD but for me to get the widescreen screen to look right, I've got to set the "configuration" at 864x484 or 1072x603 and then use my Axim's "mirror display" function to see it because I can't figure out how to get nyditot's "external display" to do widescreen resolutions.


Also, I have a handful of my own configuations saved, and now when I hit the dropdown "configuration menu" (and I'm in landscape mode) it rolls off the bottom of my screen and with no scroll bar. I have to use the physical buttons on the Axim to click down the list, (one by one) to get to the bottom choices.

I'm going to install latest, currently I'm running beta 2

Nyditot,

Would it be "ok" if I contact ThinkOutside and try to get them to support your software with their mouse?

[jgoodman]

Nyditot,

Would it be "ok" if I contact ThinkOutside and try to get them to support your software with their mouse?

think outside BT mouse plays nice with NYDITOT 4.21 (for me at least) if you set the mouse settings to "safe" instead of "enhanced".

[nyditot]

jgoodman,

Thanks for sharing that tip.


J-D-Cronin,

We've have started to take a look at TO BT mouse compatibility but it would certainly be OK for customers to contact TO as well. Customer suggestions/complaints can be very motivating.

[fabianff]

jgoodman,

Thanks for sharing that tip.


J-D-Cronin,

We've have started to take a look at TO BT mouse compatibility but it would certainly be OK for customers to contact TO as well. Customer suggestions/complaints can be very motivating.

to me when I installed the Nyditot 4.21 + (Mouse and Keyboard BT)= Crash

Ya, I had really bad problems with compatibility but worked it out with a hard reset, I then took that oportunity to do a rom update :approve:

Nyditot, good to hear something is being done about it, *hopefully T.O. will...*. If it isn't too much trouble, could you keep us updated if there is any progress? :approve:

[new2axim]

Can somebody tell me what exactly the "96 DPI Resource Pack" is and does? I've been using NYDITOT without it and just read that "In order to realize the TRUE VGA capabilities of the X50v you will also need to install the Nyditot 96 DPI Resource Pack"

Sorry if I'm being dense, but what exactly is this and why must I install it? And if it's that necessary, how come it's not part of the installation?
Thanks

[nyditot]

The 96 DPI Resource Pack is a set of files which contain "resources" needed by various applications and the operating itself. Resources consist of graphic images, dialog box layouts, etc. which have been designed for a display of a particular dots-per-inch (DPI). DPI is really an inappropriate term with regards to displays. The name suggest that it is a measure of the number of pixels (dots) per physical inch of the display surface but the actual pixel (dot) size for displays varies quite a bit. It really more of an arbitrary factor to which things are scaled.

Legacy Pocket PC devices have always had a display resolution of 240x320 pixels with a DPI of 96. Some new devices, like the X50v, now have much sharper displays of 480x640. You can think of this has reducing the width and height of each pixel by a factor of 2. Now one would think that this would cause everything on the dislay to shrink to 1/2 its width and height (actually 1/4 its original size) but VGA devices adjust for this by doubling the DPI to 192 (the scale factor). Hence you get the same Pocket PC scale that you are used to only its much crisper.

The X50v nominally operates as 480x640 and 192 DPI and therefore comes with resources that are rendered for 192 DPI. NVD allow you to change the DPI to 96 hence we need to supply you with the corresponding resources. For example, an icon which is 32x32 pixels at 192 DPI needs to be 16x16 pixels at 96 DPI.

The 96 DPI Resource pack is only required for VGA devices like the X50v and then only if you wish to use 96 DPI. It is also king of (2.4MB) so we decided to not include it in the core product as it would cause much longer download times for most people who don't even need it. You should definitely install it on the Axim, particularly if you want to use external display capabilities. You will see the difference when you use an external monitor at 1024x768 with 96 vs. 192 DPI.

[darkdestroyer]

http://pc-mobile.net/ax50.htm
I can use this vga out with the Nydoit Virtual Display correct??

[nyditot]

We've only tested with the Dell VGA cable, not with any third party cables. That said, we have heard of others that are using NVD 4.21 with the PC-Mobile cable that you have pictured.