VGA-Video out really Works... i can´t believe it... - Page 2

skirep · 08-11-05, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by biohzrd

What resolution is that display running? Are you using the nyditot program?

The resolution is 1024x768 using Nyditot and the software works very fine :).

stenneth · 08-19-05, 08:23 PM

I just bought a VGA out cable to allow me to use my axim for powerpoint presentations at work but it won't work with the projector they have. The video out is fine when I connect to a standard CRT monitor, but with the projector I get a "frequency is out of range error". I've tried in mirror mode, with Nyditot, with Clearvue and with the enhanced GAPI drivers. None of this makes any difference and none of these programs allow the output frequency to be altered from its default 60Hz. Having said this, I have no idea why it isn't working in the first place, as the projector is a Sony SVGA VPL-CS7, and the specifications suggest that it should be able to handle all the resolutions and frequencies that the axim can possibly throw at it.

Any suggestions? If I can't get things working my VGA out cable has just been a big waste of money.

08-19-05, 09:34 PM

Perhaps try a lower resolution... the projector might prefer that.

@medevo - thats a really neat idea. I hope you can get it to work. Then maybe we can use that for gaming! ^_^ lol

stenneth · 08-20-05, 09:54 PM

Still no luck with the Sony SVGA VPL-CS7 projector - it just doesn't seem to like the Axim video out signal. I've tried all resolutions and screen orientations and even upgraded to the latest bios (A05). Does anyone know if the default output refresh rate can be altered from 60Hz - its the only other thing I can think of, although the projector specifications suggest that it should support all 3 possible axim output resolutions at this frequency anyway.

08-20-05, 10:47 PM

I don't believe that you can change the refresh rate. I did a good amount of beta testing on the Nyditot software and the intel chip can output up to 1280x1024

Also, someone was asking about "tapping

08-20-05, 10:50 PM

I don't believe that you can change the refresh rate. I did a good amount of beta testing on the Nyditot software and the intel chip can output up to 1280x1024

Also, someone was asking about "tapping" being the same as clicking. Answer: It is the same.

I have the Dell branded ThinkOutside bluetooth keyboard and the ThinkOutside Bluetooth mouse, The keyboard works great, but the mouse is, so far, incompatible with Nyiditot Virtual Display.

08-20-05, 10:53 PM

One more thing, Nyditot Virtual Display software does not strech the display, everything gets tinyier(sp?) the higher the resolution you go.

darkdestroyer · 08-20-05, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dad

A full port dock for the X50v :approve: :approve: You could sell that if you could squeeze keybaord/Mouse/VGA and Power into a single multi tentacled cable - hell I'd buy one just coz it existed! All the inputs are there on the Axim - I reckon this is well worthy! Let me know if you go any further with it!

Is it possible for the X50v to ahve a USB host capability via the dock connector?
The Asus Mypal has this via the dock connector, i was wondering if the Axim had this capabiltiy.
I know it's not advertised by dell, but i've heard of
"hidden connectors" or pins down there that have this functionality, but not able to do it because of the lack of software.
Also is it possible to make a single multi tentacled cable?

new2axim · 08-21-05, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by darkdestroyer

Is it possible for the X50v to ahve a USB host capability via the dock connector?
The Asus Mypal has this via the dock connector, i was wondering if the Axim had this capabiltiy.

All I know is that I'd kill to have USB funcionality without spending $130 on a CF USB host.

I'm using my x50v with an in-car touch screen but I can't use the touch screen functionality because I can't connect to the Axim via USB :(

darkdestroyer · 08-21-05, 02:45 PM

Yes yes!!!! I'd KILL to have USB functionality also. Please Please any word on this? I hear the Linux Project enables USB host, any1 have any ideas?

new2axim · 08-23-05, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by darkdestroyer

Yes yes!!!! I'd KILL to have USB functionality also. Please Please any word on this? I hear the Linux Project enables USB host, any1 have any ideas?

My only real hope was(is?) somebody would adapt something through the serial cables that can be bought for the Axim:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=90634

biohzrd · 08-23-05, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by new2axim

My only real hope was(is?) somebody would adapt something through the serial cables that can be bought for the Axim:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=90634

Well, since everyone is willing to kill for this... I figured I'd do a quick search for you. Hell, I even found a sticky on the topic, if you care to read half-way through it.

Scroll DOwn a bit...
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...light=x50v+USB

Download the software here : works with x50 x50v, and a LOT more.
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/

psionandy · 08-23-05, 06:40 AM

It`s not really USB host though... more a set of drivers that let the USB host Device (Pc) talk directly to the USB client device (axim).

if you want a true USB host solution then the Ratoc is the only show in town (and not really a great show at that)

And before someone asks... no you can`t do it just by making a special cable... it really does need a chunk of extra hardware

biohzrd · 08-23-05, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by psionandy

It`s not really USB host though... more a set of drivers that let the USB host Device (Pc) talk directly to the USB client device (axim).

if you want a true USB host solution then the Ratoc is the only show in town (and not really a great show at that)

And before someone asks... no you can`t do it just by making a special cable... it really does need a chunk of extra hardware

I'm not sure what you mean. While I agree it's just a set of drivers, it basically lets you use your axim as a USB flash drive. No drivers needed to install on the PC. exactly what they wanted.

psionandy · 08-23-05, 10:34 AM

Just to clarify, and I'm not trying to split hairs here, it isn't a USB host which is what some people (me included) would like.

If it was a USB host, i could plug in flash drives, Ipods, keyboards etc as long as i had the driver. That's the sort of functionality that people would kill for.

Cardexport is nice and may help some people, but people would only commit mild assault to get it :p

darkdestroyer · 08-23-05, 11:00 AM

Yes Psionandy, mild assault i did to get my cardexport from Softick. It works in a nich, but any USB2.0 card reader would beat cardexport in a flash.

Like andy said, what we want is the ability to plug in flash drives, iPods, mice, keyboards, webcams, keyboards, into our tiny little axim. Just like the Asus Mypal, which does have USB host by a little cable.

biohzrd · 08-23-05, 11:14 AM

Ohh I see. Is USB host a software or hardware function? We know we can get the bottom of the axim to communicate via USB, so maybe just the right kind of connector and drivers on the axim?

darkdestroyer · 08-23-05, 11:25 AM

Hardware. I think the Axim itself must have the right pin's to do so. My question in general was whether or not it had the "potential" to do this.

psionandy · 08-23-05, 11:27 AM

nooooooo!

Thats the reason i put it in my post.
USB HOST is a hardware thing. You need to have the hardware to do it. Making your own cable, or writing a driver will not do it.

nyditot · 08-23-05, 01:29 PM

Here's my very superficial understanding of the issue:

The Intel PXA270 processor has built in USB host cababilities. If you're curious about its other capabilities, here's a link to Intel's PXA270 product page.

In addition the Windows CE core OS includes the necessary software to implement USB host functionality

BUT

the OEM must include these components in their implementation of the CE OS. A few key DLL's to look for are OHCI.DLL and USBD.DLL. I do not see these files on the X50v so....

That said, there's also the issue of connecting the USB devices. I'm not familiar with the X50v internals or pinout but I assume that the USB host capability of the PXA270 is not even "hooked up". I can't see why Dell would engineer the hardware but then simply not include the necessary drivers. I could be wrong in which case it would be a matter of getting the necessary OS files onto the device and some other unknown steps that a dedicated hacker might be able to deduce.