The VOIP speakers basically let you make calls using skype etc in the same way you would on a mobile phone (speakers top of loox, mic at bottom), without the need for a BT headset. The main (loud) speaker on the Loox is next to the microphone rendering it pretty useless because of the echo effect. If you want to use skype like a mobile on an axim you either use a BT headset (my personal choice) or just lower the volume and turn the axim upside down.
If you're not a skype addict then you probably won't bother you.
I for one always liked the HP/Ipaq line. However, given the speed in which these items continually get replaced, I felt it better to spend $300-$400 on the Dell (despite a less enticing screen, and shorter battery life) then $550-650 on the HP.
Throw in Dell's free upgrade to WM 5.0 and I reasoned that the life of the Dell Axim x50v will prove to be longer then the Hp 4700, especially if developers take advantage of the Dell graphic coprocessor.
Many of you seem to be looking over the fact that the hx470X has a dedicated GPU as well. It's an ATI Imageon 3220 chip. It doesn't have dedicated video memory, however.
The x50v and hx470X are the only two PDAs with VGA, a 624 mghz processor, and dedicated GPU.
x50v advantages over hx470X
+Smaller Size
+'hard' D-pad
+16mb of graphics memory.
+Cheaper (but not by as much as most people claim, you can find the hx470X's for $425)
hx470X advantages over x50v
+Better battery life
+benchmarks slightly faster
+Larger screen (and a bit better looking)
+Magnesium body
The advantages of the hx470X are more universal and apply to more people, so generally the hx470X is a better choice. However if you are like me and play lots of games, the hard d-pad is a necessity. And also, unless you find an internet bargain, the hx470X can cost quite a bit more. Also it is too cumbersome for some. And the damn IR port is on the bottom, wth?
The loox and mypals are lacking in features compared to these two, I wouldn't bother.
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Many of you seem to be looking over the fact that the hx470X has a dedicated GPU as well. It's an ATI Imageon 3220 chip. It doesn't have dedicated video memory, however.
The x50v and hx470X are the only two PDAs with VGA, a 624 mghz processor, and dedicated GPU.
x50v advantages over hx470X
+Smaller Size
+'hard' D-pad
+16mb of graphics memory.
+Cheaper (but not by as much as most people claim, you can find the hx470X's for $425)
hx470X advantages over x50v
+Better battery life
+benchmarks slightly faster
+Larger screen (and a bit better looking)
+Magnesium body
The advantages of the hx470X are more universal and apply to more people, so generally the hx470X is a better choice. However if you are like me and play lots of games, the hard d-pad is a necessity. And also, unless you find an internet bargain, the hx470X can cost quite a bit more. Also it is too cumbersome for some. And the damn IR port is on the bottom, wth?
The loox and mypals are lacking in features compared to these two, I wouldn't bother.
I'm sorry? I think you'll find the Loox and MyPal have many more features than both of these.
The only thing the Loox lacks is the 3d accelerator and deccelerator of the x50 and Ipaq repectively. However it DOES have:
Better Battery life than both of the above
Better screen than the x50
Camera
Usb Host
Consumer IR
128mb of RAM
I really don't see how you can call these lacking in features, or even to tell people not to bother with them.
Besides, just because A PDA is on the market, doesn't mean it will be replaced so quickly. Besides, the x50v has been out longer than the 47xx, so it "may" go out before, but it also may not...
the 3d chip may be for the future, but how many developers will actually take advantage of it? Will they change their code for 1 PDA, or will they all wait to see what Dell does. I know there are people who already put in the code or written programs specifically for it, but they're really few and far between considering how many programs there actually are out there right now.
Don't get me wrong...I would LOVE to have gotten the 50v, but I decided I would wait on the 3d chip to see if it was going to be worth it down the road
(benchmarks for regular GAPI are way low because of the way the chip works even though it runs flawlessly for those items that use it.)
I ended up going for the 4" screen with the ability to be decent all the way around. Now if the next wave of PDA's have the chip....welcome aboard!
x50v >> Loox -- No question about it. 16mb video, faster processor (624 v. 520), better form factor, cheaper price. Isn't it great that Loox and HP owners browse Aximsite just as much as Axim owners. That right there tells ya something...
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Isn't it great that Loox and HP owners browse Aximsite just as much as Axim owners. That right there tells ya something...
Yes, It tells you that the Axim has a larger user base because it is sold all over the world.
You may be interested to know that infact the Loox and Axim have essentially the same CPUs (Loox's PXA 272 + Axim's PXA270), and so are both capable of running at the same speeds.
I looked at the Loox and bought the Axim. Aside from the faster processor, one of the deciding factors for me was the LACK of a camera in the Axim.
My prior PDA lasted with me for about 4 years. Given the constant improvement in the digital camera technology, a built-in camera will be obsolete well before the PDA. Lugging around that extra technology will become annoying. In the PDA game, size matters. Besides, if you really want a camera, I’m sure there are SD or Compact Flash or even BT options available that can be upgraded when they become obsolete.
I suppose really, which is the 'better' PDA depends on what your requirements are. The 'best' PDA for one person may not be the 'best' PDA for another.
I suppose really, which is the 'better' PDA depends on what your requirements are. The 'best' PDA for one person may not be the 'best' PDA for another.
Spot on.. There is no such thing as the perfect PDA. Any PDA is a trade off between size, various features, cost, battery life, form factor, level of support, build quality etc..
And different people will be prepared to make different compromises. So if it's the best thing for you then what does it matter whos badge is on the front of it?
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I would LOVE to have gotten the 50v, but I decided I would wait on the 3d chip to see if it was going to be worth it down the road
(benchmarks for regular GAPI are way low because of the way the chip works even though it runs flawlessly for those items that use it.)
Just to end it. If you would read most of reviews on Axim (especially old ones), there're always stated that Axim X50v is slower than hx47xx or Loox 720.
Yes, it was at the beginning. But after Dell released several upgrades with optimized driver, the speed had greatly improved. And now any comparison in the terms of speed to other VGA PPC is meaningless.
Intel 2700G supports MPEG2 and MPEG4 hardware decoding, 2D and 3D acceleration, optimized for Intel PXA27x processor.
ATI Imageon is optimised for 320x240 resolution, not VGA (though it supports VGA). Only Imageon 2300 has 3D acceleration, other versions don't have.
I'd compared all these devices (Loox, hx4700, X50v) before I bought my Dell. I held each in the hand used each for some time and selected Dell.
This is just my opinion.:hide:
You may be interested to know that infact the Loox and Axim have essentially the same CPUs (Loox's PXA 272 + Axim's PXA270), and so are both capable of running at the same speeds.
Do they?
Methinks you are wrong. Would you say that Pentium 4 3,8 Mhz is capable of running the same speed as Pentium 4 3,8 Ghz?
Oh, maybe you wanted to say that both are capable of running at the same speeds equal to or less than 520 Mhz? In that case you are right.
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