Effects of a Hard Reset

sabester24 · 08-09-05, 12:01 AM

I just read somewhere on the boards that performing a Hard Reset can result in negative effects. I'm aware that it reverts your PDA back to factory resets, but isn't this the only thing that could be considered a "negative effect". Can a Hard Reset cause permanent damage to the PDA's performance?

PeteUALaw · 08-09-05, 12:06 AM

i would think not. It clears all the information that is not in BIS or external media. It wipes main memory clean and re-installs the OS and such from ROM. At least- this is what I have gathered as to what happens. I look at it as wiping a hard drive clean and re-installing the Operating System

FlyACL · 08-09-05, 12:08 AM

What he said ^^

G M Fude · 08-09-05, 02:19 AM

But a hard reset invariably leaves the built-in storage (BIS) intact, right? So some apps may still be on that but probably would not function right because the .dll and shortcuts and registry have been wiped. Maybe that's what sabester is asking (if I'm correct about the BIS).

08-09-05, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by G M Fude

But a hard reset invariably leaves the built-in storage (BIS) intact, right? So some apps may still be on that but probably would not function right because the .dll and shortcuts and registry have been wiped. Maybe that's what sabester is asking (if I'm correct about the BIS).

Yes, you are indeed correct.

G M Fude · 08-09-05, 02:41 AM

Thanks for confirming that, Xan. I'm slowly learning about PPCs. I should have added for sabester's benefit I suppose that BIS apps will be user-installed ones, not the standard stuff. Although there's some changes to that for WM5, I believe.

sabester24 · 08-09-05, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by G M Fude

Thanks for confirming that, Xan. I'm slowly learning about PPCs. I should have added for sabester's benefit I suppose that BIS apps will be user-installed ones, not the standard stuff. Although there's some changes to that for WM5, I believe.

Just to confirm...I've already been told this by a number of people, but...After a hard reset, you MUST reinstall all your programs, even if you do a restore. Correct?

Gigi · 08-09-05, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by sabester24

Just to confirm...I've already been told this by a number of people, but...After a hard reset, you MUST reinstall all your programs, even if you do a restore. Correct?

Incorrect. What would be the point of a restore if you had to reinstall everything? Provided that the backup was done properly and included the contents of Main Memory, there should be no need to reinstall following a successful restore.

Vikram R · 08-09-05, 08:10 PM

So, after a hard reset, even progs that I installed into BIS will be toasted?

Gigi · 08-09-05, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Vikram R

So, after a hard reset, even progs that I installed into BIS will be toasted?

A hard reset ONLY affects Main Memory. BIS and memory cards are untouched. A restore will restore back Main Memory and also BIS/memory card if configured as such on Sprite. I don't believe the built-in backup utility or ActiveSync's backup utility can backup BIS/memory cards.

08-09-05, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Vikram R

So, after a hard reset, even progs that I installed into BIS will be toasted?

No. When you perform a hard reset, the MAIN MEMORY is 'toasted' and reset back to factory defaults. With a hard reset, the BIS, CF/SD memory is unscathed.

However, any programs you have installed in BIS MIGHT not work properly -- if there are any DLL's that it has installed in the main memory.

Gigi mentioned in an earlier post that a proper backup and restore will get around the need to reinstall any programs, and therefore a 'hard reset' would be like the old trick of reinstalling Win9x over the top of itself.

_889 · 08-09-05, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Xanlexian

No. When you perform a hard reset, the MAIN MEMORY is 'toasted' and reset back to factory defaults. With a hard reset, the BIS, CF/SD memory is unscathed.

However, any programs you have installed in BIS MIGHT not work properly -- if there are any DLL's that it has installed in the main memory.

Gigi mentioned in an earlier post that a proper backup and restore will get around the need to reinstall any programs, and therefore a 'hard reset' would be like the old trick of reinstalling Win9x over the top of itself.

Yeah all programs I installed on the BIS after a hard reset stop working, it gave me an error message saying it could not find the program.....

Vish · 08-09-05, 08:39 PM

I have lost the link to the hard rest from my programs, how can do a hard reset without the link? In other words, where is the executable actually stored so that I can navigate to it?
thanks in advance

Gigi · 08-09-05, 08:40 PM

Just hold down the power button while doing a soft reset (push stylus into the soft reset hole at the back).

Vikram R · 08-09-05, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Xanlexian

No. When you perform a hard reset, the MAIN MEMORY is 'toasted' and reset back to factory defaults. With a hard reset, the BIS, CF/SD memory is unscathed.

However, any programs you have installed in BIS MIGHT not work properly -- if there are any DLL's that it has installed in the main memory.

Gigi mentioned in an earlier post that a proper backup and restore will get around the need to reinstall any programs, and therefore a 'hard reset' would be like the old trick of reinstalling Win9x over the top of itself.

I see. Is there any way to reset even the BIS to factory-original state, say because of corrupted files, etc?