Converted Palm user - Dell Axim x50v requires hard taps on LCD?

turbodub_6 · 08-09-05, 09:51 AM

Hey guys,

I've lurked around the aximsite forums for a while, and just yesterday I got my x50v. Charged it for all of last night, and this morning I finally got to play with it for around 15 minutes before work.

I put a boxwave screen protector on it right out of the box (pulled the dell protective film off and put the screen protector right on, that cut down on dust and stuff). Anyways, I noticed when playing this morning that I have to tap the screen quite hard in order to register a tap. It feels like I have to tap considerably harder then I would on my old Sony UX50 or Tungsten T3. Have you guys noticed the same thing in comparison to your old PDAs, or could it possibly be the boxwave protector?

Thanks guys, and looking forward to being a new axim owner and member of aximsite!

Cheers

Roger

permalink · 08-09-05, 09:58 AM

what ROM is it? I think that problem was fixed in A03. But since I haven't used a palm in quite a while it may just be normal. but I don't think I am pushing very hard at all.

permalink · 08-09-05, 09:59 AM

I'm not familiar with the Boxwave screen protectors. I bought my X50v used on eBay a few months back and it came with a lot of cheap screen protectors that I never use.

Compared to my previous Palm devices (USR Palm Pilot, USR PP Pro, and a couple of Clies) -- I'd take the other side and say the X50v screen is TOO sensitive.

I'd have to say it is your screen protector. But having only seen one X50v (my own) -- I have nothing else to comapre that to.

Welcome to Aximsite, by the way!!!

G M Fude · 08-09-05, 06:09 PM

I went from a Palm with a Brando non-glare protector to the X50v, also with a Brando non-glare protector, and I'd say the Axim is more sensitive. Quite often I'll be using it and absent-mindedly brush a speck of dust off the screen and... open an app, or perform some other unwanted function.

Can't say that I have any experience with Boxwave protectors, but I would not say the Axim screen is not as sensitive as a Palm screen. Possibly the same supplier makes the digitisers for both Palm and Dell.

permalink · 08-09-05, 10:01 PM

I'm using the boxwave wiith my new X50V and I upgraded from the X5. I do have to tap harder on the X50V than I did with the X5 more so once I put the screen protector on. And I upgraded froma a Palm 3 years ago and I thought my X5 required a firmer touch as well.
I don't think its an issue ....but you might want to run your screen setup again. It helped a little with me when I put the Boxwave on.

permalink · 08-09-05, 10:04 PM

I have the boxwave cleartouch crystal and have had a sony clié sj22/u and screen sensitivity is comprable but make sure you have ROM A04.

0gopogo · 08-09-05, 10:45 PM

As I am incompatible with screen protectors so cannot answer that part of your question. In my experience the tap sensitivity of the Axim is the same as that of the Handspring Visor and Garmin iQue 3600. I would expect the UX50 and T3 to be the same. It has been mentioned above that older x50 firmware versions were less sensitive. If your firmware version is A01 you should definitely upgrade to A03 or A04. The latter got a mixed press here and I have no personal experience with it. A03 is A-OK, though.

turbodub_6 · 08-09-05, 11:12 PM

Thanks for the replies guys. I've had a bit more time to use my Axim now, and I'm getting used to the firmer tapping. I definitely do believe that the Axim requires a firmer tap than more old PDA's though. I feel that with my T3 and UX50, all you needed to do was touch the screen to register a tap. On the Axim, I feel like I'm actually pushing on the screen. I'm not sure if this is caused by the screen protector or not (I never turned on the Axim without the protector on), but it's not really a problem, just something to get used to. Thanks for the replies guys!

Cheers

Roger

permalink · 08-10-05, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by turbodub_6

Thanks for the replies guys. I've had a bit more time to use my Axim now, and I'm getting used to the firmer tapping. I definitely do believe that the Axim requires a firmer tap than more old PDA's though. I feel that with my T3 and UX50, all you needed to do was touch the screen to register a tap. On the Axim, I feel like I'm actually pushing on the screen. I'm not sure if this is caused by the screen protector or not (I never turned on the Axim without the protector on), but it's not really a problem, just something to get used to. Thanks for the replies guys!

Cheers

Roger

It's the Boxwave. I guarantee it. I took mine off and it's back to normal. While I had it on the heavy tapping that was required drove me nuts.

I have some ScreenGuardz but haven't gotten around to putting them on yet.

turbodub_6 · 08-10-05, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by lumpynose

It's the Boxwave. I guarantee it. I took mine off and it's back to normal. While I had it on the heavy tapping that was required drove me nuts.

I have some ScreenGuardz but haven't gotten around to putting them on yet.

Hmm...maybe I should look into a different screen protector then...

That's too bad, I've had Boxwave protectors on my Palms too, and I thought they were great; that's why I went with them again for my Axim.

Let's say that I don't change protectors, is it bad for the touch screen to be tapping it harder than normal? Will I eventually cause damage to the LCD?

Thanks again for all the comments and advice guys!

Cheers

Roger

eve6grl02 · 08-10-05, 10:44 AM

i recommend the brando untraclear protectors. you have to tap slightly harder than you do on a "naked" screen, but it's not significant. in general, the stylus glides much smoother across the brando protector that it does over a "naked" screen.

here's a link: http://shop.brando.com.hk/ultraclearscreenprotector.php

$13 even (includes S&H) - and it looks BEAUTIFUL on the screen!

permalink · 08-10-05, 11:23 AM

I'm personally a fan of the Martin Fields screen protectors myself:

http://www.overlayplus.com/US/dis_pr...ln=Axim%20X50V

I've had very good luck with their product.

Runscape · 08-10-05, 12:57 PM

Try recal your screen with protector on and see what happen.

kilthro · 08-10-05, 01:07 PM

I had the dell screen protectors on my Axim from day one and I got tired of them scratching up and that’s all you could see is the scuff marks. I decided to buy the Boxwave clear touch 3 pack screen protectors. I noticed drastic changes in clarity and loved that aspect of them. I did notice that I have to tap harder on the screen for it to recognize the tap and also when I am scrolling windows sometimes where I place the stylus doesn't match up to what it is doing on the screen. The screen protectors that came from boxwave were 3-5 times thicker than the dell ones. I re ran the screen set up and it is still the same way. I am starting to get use to it now but it was a drastic change in how firm I have to tap the screen. I do have to say that i love the screen protectors though. They are so much clearer than the dell ones and I know that they will provide much more protection to the screen. So I will just deal with having to press down more firmly. Also, I tried washing them and then re-applying them to the screen and it worked with no problems. So if you were wondering if what they claim is true, it is. I washed it and put it back on and nothing changed except for the fact that it is now clean. :approve:

kilthro · 08-10-05, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by turbodub_6

Hmm...maybe I should look into a different screen protector then...

That's too bad, I've had Boxwave protectors on my Palms too, and I thought they were great; that's why I went with them again for my Axim.

Let's say that I don't change protectors, is it bad for the touch screen to be tapping it harder than normal? Will I eventually cause damage to the LCD?

Thanks again for all the comments and advice guys!

Cheers

Roger

I doubt that you would cause damage from having to tap harder as long as you aren't taking a hammer to it. I haven't noticed it damaging the screen or lcd. I would rather have the protector on there than just using the bare screen and then getting a scratch that is not removable and having to deal with that for the life of the axim. You could take the screen protector off for a quick test and see of the screen responds with a ligher tap. If it does, then you know its just the screen protector. If you still expirience having to tap it quite firmly there may be something up with your screen. I doubt there is a problem but that is a quick easy test to check out if it is just the screen protector or not.