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Actually I had it working befor A04.
It's just these two devices....
I don't think it's the phone as it works will all the other devices I have ever tested.
I don't think it's the Axim as it has also worked with every other phone I have ever tested.
I just can't explain it....
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Actually I had it working befor A04.
It's just these two devices....
I don't think it's the phone as it works will all the other devices I have ever tested.
I don't think it's the Axim as it has also worked with every other phone I have ever tested.
I just can't explain it....
All these updates (A01, A04), are these from Dell or Microsoft? Are these OS updates or ROM updates for Dell hardware?
Can someone please explain?
MSFT Releases updates to OEMs like Dell.
Dell then takes these updates and makes them specific to their product.
For example every device with WM5 must use persistent storage, but only Dell uses the Dell WLAN utility.
Then once Dell is done customizing these updates to their product, the release them to the public hence A01. This was the orgional A01, and now they are up to A04 (no one has seen A02 or A03). I think thats about right
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Is there a way to use an E815 for BT DUN with 1x rather than EVDO? I was thinking of trying to get one but don't want to worry about getting in trouble or incurring extra charges...
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=688023
I just leave my E815 in EVDO mode, but I seldom use it. I'm not sure how much difference it makes to force the phone to 1xrtt, I figure if they are going to start cracking down, they are not going to ignore the 1xrtt usage. But who knows.
I have VCast, because I want unlimited minutes for MobileWeb and the VZW WebSession is faster than my proxies. I think they might have a problem with me using DUN with unlimited data for $15/month, even if I am only using 1xrtt. :rolling:
That's what I have the V710 for - but it doesn't work!!!!!
The E815 DUN works perfectly with the x51v, on A01 and A04 ROM's.
Originally Posted by oly8080
Does it matter what verion of update we have on the x51v? Did you guys apply all the updates from DELL before trying DUN - Bluetooth?
I think the only people that managed to get DUN on the V710 had the X51 and not the X51v. I was following this thread and tried everything, but could not get the V710 to pair correctly with my x51v (always have to put in the PIN twice), nor could I ever get any services to show. I've even tried the couple of Bluetooth upgrade things that have been posted. I had ROM A01 and A04, and I tried everything on both ROM's.
Is there something bad about tethering it to the 1xRTT network??
I've never heard that before....
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Is there something bad about tethering it to the 1xRTT network??
I've never heard that before....
It is against Verizon's TOS to tether an EVDO capable phone. They do not even offer a data plan for an EVDO phone.
There have been some people that force their E815's to 1xrtt and then have been able to get Verizon to change their plan to a National Access plan (which will show as National Enhanced Svc in your account, like it does with the V710 or other 1xrtt phone).
EVDO phones are not supposed to have Natl Enhanced Svc enabled on their accounts. Natl Enhanced Svc is what allows Minutes of Usage (MOU) for tethering.
But I think that even MOU is going to be taken away at some point. They have recently changed their TOS and the info on their website. You are no longer supposed to tether without a data plan. They have no mention of the MOU stuff anymore, but they have not billed anyone for it that I've seen.
Thats not really good news.
Today alone I stayed teatherd for about 2.5 hours.......(1xRTT)
Oops....
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All these updates (A01, A04), are these from Dell or Microsoft? Are these OS updates or ROM updates for Dell hardware?
Can someone please explain?
Since the Axim runs Windows Mobile 5.0, I don't understand why Dell need to adapt the Microsoft release for their system? Unless they are doing something specific to their hardware.
An OS patch should be the same across all OEM vendors (I would think)
I searched Howardforums to try to learn more about the whole National Access MOU vs. VCast thing. If I have them swap out my V710 under warranty for a E815 (I’m having problems with it), will they automatically switch my plan since you’re not supposed to have a EVDO phone with NAMOU? Assuming Dell gets their act together and gets the X51v working with the V710, is the V710 my best bet for DUN with VZW?
I searched Howardforums to try to learn more about the whole National Access MOU vs. VCast thing. If I have them swap out my V710 under warranty for a E815 (I’m having problems with it), will they automatically switch my plan since you’re not supposed to have a EVDO phone with NAMOU? Assuming Dell gets their act together and gets the X51v working with the V710, is the V710 my best bet for DUN with VZW?
It doesn't matter if you upgrade from the V710 to the E815 or add the E815 as another phone or anything else. However the E815 is put on the Verizon network, it will not have NAMOU. That plan is not an eligible plan for an EVDO capable phone.
I'd say the V710 is the best bet for DUN on VZW - mainly because it is the only Bluetooth phone that isn't EVDO. At least I think it is. :rolling:
Though I'm having my doubts as to whether or not we'll ever be able to use DUN with the V710 and an X51v. :realmad:
OS updates come from Microsoft, and Dell has to adapt them. The Dell WLAN Utility, and the Data Backup, and that awsome little Dell Logo when you soft reset etc. While the core OS is the same form all WM5 devices, OEMs like Dell add things in, some times for better (like the Dell WLAN utility) some times for worse (like this f***** up bluetooth stack)
I am hoping that this problem with the V710 and the X51 series will be resolved. I am really beginning to get upset.
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OS updates come from Microsoft, and Dell has to adapt them. The Dell WLAN Utility, and the Data Backup, and that awsome little Dell Logo when you soft reset etc. While the core OS is the same form all WM5 devices, OEMs like Dell add things in, some times for better (like the Dell WLAN utility) some times for worse (like this f***** up bluetooth stack)
I am hoping that this problem with the V710 and the X51 series will be resolved. I am really beginning to get upset.
I understand that Dell would customize the OS for their pretty Logo's and some UI tweaks. But as far as I am concerned Bluetooth stack should be standard. Not sure what DELL would add to it.
Providing utility applications like WLAN makes sense as it is a standalone application.
Twas my understanding that the OS came .... shall we say incomplete for lack of a better word. The only reason I would assume this is becuase other OEMs such as HP still use the bradcom bluetooth stack while dell chose to go with microsoft's stack. Although incomplete isn't the right word becuase I believe OEMs had the option to use another stack as HP did, but Dell chose not to, so the stuck with the defualt stack which is obdivously microsofts.
Windows Mobile 5.0
One small step foward for memory storage, on giant leap back in stability and usefulness.
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