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Old 04-11-06, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question system administrator?

Maybe I am looking in the wrong place, being all new and everything, but can anyone tell me who/what the system administrator is, and where I should be looking for it/him/her?
The problem: When I am accessing wifi from sites other than my own home, I can receive mail fine, I can get on the internet, download messages from my Imap accounts, etc. When I reply to said messages, or start a new message to one of the contacts in my list, the first thing that I encounter is a message that says that I am attempting to send mail to one or more contacts that are unrecognized, do I want to continue? Since the only person that I can see that I am sending to IS recognized, and in fact was activated from the contacts button, I say, sure, let's go ahead and send. A short while later, I get the old heave ho from the system administrator saying that the person does not exist. Now, I know that the person DOES exist, and that the addy is correct in every aspect. Any ideas anyone? Is this "administrator? native to outlook, or should I be looking somewhere, "out there?" I have several IMAP accounts, and the behaviour described happens on all, which would make me suspect something to do with ME.:
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Can you post the complete message you get in response?

Example:
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

Subject: hey so-and-so
Sent: 4/12/2006 1:30 AM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

so-and-so@x.com on 4/11/2006 5:35 PM
The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this message was sent to. Check the e-mail address, or contact the recipient directly to find out the correct address.
<x.x.com #5.1.1>
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Old 04-11-06, 09:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Usually you cannot use your 'private' email setup when you are responding via an 'external' wifi-router.
You may receive emails but you cannot respond.
The reason is, that you have to specify the name of the SMTP server for the outgoing post, which almost certainly differs from your 'private' servername.
The name and password may be provided to you by the administration of the 'external' system, hence the name: systemadministrator.

One solution may be to use a webbased email provider eg. gmail.com.
Here the servernames are fixed despite your physical location.
From a webbased email system your emails may be redirected to your 'private' system and usually you will not note a significant difference.

My answer became a bit technical but I hope the conclusion is clear :-)
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Thank you both. I think I may have two different problems. The first message is (if I can remember it exactly) "some of the recipients in the above message are not known. Do you wish to proceed anyway?" (close, probably not exact) then, upon sending, I receive a notice from the System Administrator, along with the message that was sent (presumably an email notice)that says "message was not delivered because the address does not exist." I think that the accounts I use are IMAP, and both sender and recieving server are supposed to be the same?
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Lewis - the cause of these error messages is one and the same.

You cannot connect to your IMAP server via an 'external' router with an different ISP without info about the SMTP server used by this 'external' provider.

The name of the SMTP server changes (normally) with the Internet System Provider (ISP) despite of the mailing setup of YOUR 'private' ISP (POP3 or IMAP)

The 'external' SMTP server cannot recognize the name of your 'private' SMTP server and therefore it returns a error-msg saying something like:
'I cannot recognize the recipient of your massage (because I cannot recognize the name of the SMTP server you gave me)'

Its not exactly what happens but the end-effect is the same.

Again, use a web based email provider and eventually redirect your emails automatically.
You may still retained your 'private' email setup to be used when you're at home (if you prefer so) and select the 'external' setup when you're out somewhere.

Personally I use the web based setup all the time after I retired from my job.

Email systems are complicated - but hopefully you're a little more clarified now :-)


Edit:

Just to make myself clear:
You can use a web based email system via your normal email program -
that is, you don't have to access a web site in order to use emails.

I use the built-in email program of my x3i to access gmail.com
The emails appears on my x3i and are still retained on gmail (despite using POP3)

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In most cases email servers will use the same server for sending and recieving, although this is not always the case.

You have not mentioned if this is a personal emai account(s) ... or maybe I missed it.

Anyway for your personal reference the "administrator" that is sending you the notification is not a real person. That is the email server letting you know that there was a problem with the email transmission and that you have a problem - could be a problem with your configuration or a problem with the server.

We really need to see the message tht you are recieving in order to help any further
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some ISP's will let you "relay" mail through their server even though you are not connected to them. Example: if your mail server is supposed to be smtp.verizon.net and you are at Starbucks on WiFi you may be connected to t-Mobile (not verizon) so your mail doesn't go (if you were set as outgoing server smtp.verizon.net). Your ISP may give you a method to send mail, normally it will be selected as "my server requires authentication" on the outgoing server, and then the authentication may be your full user name@your ISP.com with your password. So while you are connected via T-Mobile, you can still access verizon's smtp server with the authentication. :)
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Thank you all for your kind suggestions. With your patience and knowledge, one day, maybe, I will be a capable user.
Two of my email clients are web based, and they work well when away, on my laptop, but still having the above issues with the Axim. Tis a mystery that I will keep chipping away at.
Again, thanks. OBTW, the flightiness problems seem to have all but disappeared, once I uninstalled the spb software, Pocket Plus. Could be because I had installed it on the SD card, will reload it on the system memory at a later date, to see how much difference it makes. Sure was a hassle for awhile, but that is what we enjoy most, is it not?
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That's ok, Lewis
Maybe you can get some advice from here:

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=70622

It's for gmail but can be used as a guide for almost any web based email access.

Take care ...
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Zaniax is spot on with the answer.

To get round it I've also started to use my old Hotmail account.

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Isn't this in the wrong forum? Anyway, some ISP's block all outgoing mail, unless its their own SMTP server. For example, right now, I use mail.optonline.net instead of my own SMTP server, or the protonic one, simply because it doesn't work.

As somebody mentioned above, T-Mobile may block it at Starbucks. You may not be able to use a Verizon SMTP server, for example.
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Try here:
www.mail2pda.com

I would recommend using the "Secure Connection" option.
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