I always get a kick when someone classifies ALL of something JUNK just because they run into a specific problem. Really funny to hear someone say all of M$ stuff is "junk" when they have a problem with something.
Yeah, Vista and O2007 are new. Yeah, there are problems. They will be fixed.
Want to avoid the problems for awhile? Then don't buy the latest until the problems are ironed out, that's all. Most people here are running XP/AS3.x or so and it works perfectly. I don't want Vista and O2007 myself because it's new and has problems - and the stuff I have works perfectly.
I could make the statement "Linux is junk" because I personally don't find it useful. Making such statements is nothing other than flame bait. Quit.
Let the individual problems be dealt with on their own, quit trashing everything by association - it's just not productive.
...If I could "Quit" on Microsoft and never buy or support their products again I would but how is a person going to do this?...
hehe. Mac, Missing Sync, WM5.
I have to agree that WM, be it 2003se or WM5, is probably one of the better mobile OSs. More fun to work with. OSX....i havent had to restart my computer in 7 weeks, and it still runs perfectly.
However...
you expect Vista to run flawlessly from day one? 1 OS, millions of combinations of hardware in millions of PCs. Then the manufacturers of each piece of hardware have to create drivers that not only work with the OS, but other hardware as well...
Give them some time. They will iron it out. You can still use your Axim, just enter everything manually, or via cab files and the SD/CF.
CodeBubba - I am glad you find humor in this issue. You obviously think it is OK to promote and sell a product that does not work as advertised. I have a space shuttle I will sell you, it will take you to the moon and back, but after you buy it and it just sits there, I want you to patiently wait until I get around to making it work, then I will let you know it's fixed, but in the meantime, you should really buy it because it is the latest and greatest.
I will continue to trash MS and their products that do not work as advertised until the software works. How is it "not productive"? Sorry but I'm just not going to roll over and "take it" like you do.
Why shouldnt I expect the MS products like Vista, O2007 and WMDC to run flawlessly? MS felt they were flawless and released the products to the public for purchase. I simply am not getting what I paid for here. I contacted MS Tech support and worked with them for hours on this issue and NO solution was found by their "top level techs". It is simply False Advertising and getting flamed for this should be expected.
Of all the posts here on this thread, only Benjammin has even suggested a possible solution which I had already tried.
I do appreciate the input from all of you and do not take your comments personally but the fact remains that MS has released, sold and cant make their latest products work.
The feeling I get here from alot of you is that it's OK to sell something that dosent work as advertised, even after the seller has tried to fix the problem with no clue how to fix the problem or find a solution. I bought a new PPC because the old one did not work with Vista (PPC 3.0). WMDC said I needed a PPPC with WM2003 or later to synch with Outlook. I bought that and it does not work. I tried all the troubleshooting methods and ideas I could find and the same results. Some of you want me to quit the "Flame" and just sit back and accept the fact that the products and software I bought dont work and to just wait until a patch is released? Accept the fact that there are "bugs" and thats just how it is? This type of mentality is just what MS wants from a customer. Just sit back and take it. You paid for it, you got it.
Driftless - you said "However...
you expect Vista to run flawlessly from day one? 1 OS, millions of combinations of hardware in millions of PCs. Then the manufacturers of each piece of hardware have to create drivers that not only work with the OS, but other hardware as well..."
I expect that if I have Vista, O2007, WMDC and a PPC with WM5 on it, that it should sync without any problems. It is all a MS software product and does not work together. Do you think that is unreasonable?
Again, some suggestion to resolve this problem from the great users here on this site is simply what I am looking for...
For what its worth, Vista works a lot better then the pre-XP OS's. I remeber the days of Windows 3.11 up to NT.
Of course I realize that this is my personal opinion.
BTW - XP also locks up and BSOD at times. No OS is 100% under every possible software and hardware combo.
I agree with you on this . My Vista has worked great with the only problem I have is with the sync issue. Vista is very stable, feature rich, has a plesant appearance and runs smoothly and reliabily. I too have grown up with MS OS's and laugh at 3.1 and the old days.
I expect, however, that the MS products that I need to sync should work together without problems. It is a known fact that AS has always been unstable and unreliable. WMDC is no better and even though they are all MS software products, there is definately problems in the mix.
SpaGuru, I don't think anyone would argue your point that these issues should be found out in beta and should be worked out before the software hits the streets. That's the way it should be.
Unfortunately, it isn't. Many of us who deal with (or support) systems & software in the corporate world have learned to wait anywhere from 12 to 18 months after a new version of Windows or MS Office before upgrading. Should it be that way, definately not, but until Microsoft's track record changes for the better, that's my strategy for dealing with it... both at work AND at home.
Accept the fact that there are "bugs" and thats just how it is? This type of mentality is just what MS wants from a customer. Just sit back and take it. You paid for it, you got it.
Wish I could help you with your problem. I cannot afford to upgrade all my stuff to Vista and Office 2007. Maybe it is lucky for me that I can't. My Axim is working great with good olé XP and Office 2006. But from what I have learned in the many years of messing with computers, (I go as far back as the Sinclair 2000) is that MS gives us what we want. We didn't want to wait another year for them to work out the bugs, we wanted Vista NOW!!!! So they gave us what we demanded. I know 3 people who have Vista on their computer, but know no one who is happy with it. So hopefully someone who has had the same problem as you, found how to fix it and logs on here to help. :approve: The only advice I can give is not to give up, MS doesn't read these messages so screaming here or on Dell's website doesn't work (or MS either, ). The only way to make MS understand is to write a better OS for less money, and has the easy run features of MS, and to hire real good PR team to advertise it. Good luck on finding the solution, half the fun of computer is making it run better than the manufacture meant it to. :cheers:
Because you started the OS installation from scratch or new install, I would do the same with the pocket PC. Do a bckup and then hard reset the device. Try the synchronisation with Vista from a clean Pocket PC OS. If you have try it before, I am sorry to have suggested it.
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Thanks for the tip but it is a brand new Axim from Dell. I tried a Hard Reset and it did not help. I have no data to loose! Thanks for the suggestion though!
SpaGuru - For someone that is asking for help, you sure are nasty about it and so sure that you're right and everyone else is either wrong, a lapdog or just rolls over and takes it. You're very wrong about that. Hang around here for a while and you'll see these people are the most helpful, friendly and knowledgable around, even when people act like you do. Maybe you could start a new thread and reask the question without all the bashing, just the facts.
CodeBubba - I am glad you find humor in this issue. You obviously think it is OK to promote and sell a product that does not work as advertised. I have a space shuttle I will sell you, it will take you to the moon and back, but after you buy it and it just sits there, I want you to patiently wait until I get around to making it work, then I will let you know it's fixed, but in the meantime, you should really buy it because it is the latest and greatest.
Easy now - no one said anything about the situation being "acceptable". Also - your comparison to the Shuttle is just a little bit "out there". In case you haven't noticed the shuttle has a fleet of about 4 craft and their software development group (in Houston I believe) develops ONLY to that platform and the intent of that development is just a little more tightly focused, don't you think?
What I find humorous is how people (you, obviously) just trash everything associated with a company if absolutely everything doesn't work 100% out-of-the-box. Could you do that with a company that size? Didn't think so.
Nevertheless my point is that, yes, it's OK to be frustrated about the fact that this item doesn't work? Yeah it's a crappy situation. Yeah someone associated with the Q/A on this particular thing should be taken to task and/or fired for not adequately testing it but, NO, Microsoft shouldn't just be "class-action" trashed over it. Talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater!
By all means ... make a stink about this individual problem - but be mature enough not to throw rocks. If Microsoft is that friggin' bad, then go run Linux and see if you can do better. Be my guest!
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I cannot afford to upgrade all my stuff to Vista and Office 2007. Maybe it is lucky for me that I can't. My Axim is working great with good olé XP and Office 2006. But from what I have learned in the many years of messing with computers, (I go as far back as the Sinclair 2000) is that MS gives us what we want. We didn't want to wait another year for them to work out the bugs, we wanted Vista NOW!!!! So they gave us what we demanded. 
or on Dell's website doesn't work (or MS either, 
). The only way to make MS understand is to write a better OS for less money, and has the easy run features of MS, and to hire real good PR team to advertise it. Good luck on finding the solution, half the fun of computer is making it run better than the manufacture meant it to. :cheers:
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