I expect that if I have Vista, O2007, WMDC and a PPC with WM5 on it, that it should sync without any problems. It is all a MS software product and does not work together. Do you think that is unreasonable?
Yeah it's unreasonable. WM5 is an older product. You can't take an old MS DOS program and expect it to run on Vista. And they would both be MS programs.
Tell ya what. Expect in one hand and s**t in the other and see which one fills up first.
Lets see, if you bought a new car and the cruise control didnt work, would you just figure that was a "bug" in the car and accept it? If you went to the dealer for repair and they said they couldnt find a fix for the problem but that the problem existed and they couldnt help you, would you just accept it even though the advertised product didnt work?
paulcb - The only one getting bashed around here besides myself apparently, is MS whose products I purchased dont work as advertised. The difference in opinion about the acceptability of a defective product obviously varies from user to user here. It's no act, I am dissatisfied with the products and services that MS has sold and they do not work as advertised. I have contacted tech support, worked with them for hours and verified the problem with them but they can not provide a solution to their software problem - they admit it. I am not bashing anyone on this site for anything, and appreciate all the suggestions and input from everyone. I am sure I am not alone in the quest for a solution as I am certain there are several others watching this thread, waiting patiently for a solution too. I tried that for a while and read back on all threads for a solution myself and could only find similar problems to my own without a solution provided, so I decided to post my own thread which includes my point of view. I haven't complained about your posts or requested you to do anything, but you have complained about my typing and my opinion. The whole point of my thread is to find a solution to the problem for myself and the other visitors who are watching this topic. I already asked the question without the bashing and received little or no response.
Code Bubba - I am not "trashing everything by association " by complaining that the combined MS products do not work as advertised. Admited by MS tech support as well. As I stated earlier, automobile manufacturers do it on items with far more moving parts than a computer, and live up to the same exptation of reliability and a commitment to providing not only an advertised product that works but the support behind the product to actually fix any problem that might arise. There are even laws in the world that provide for end users protection against repeated failures and unfixable problems otherwise known as Lemon Laws. These Laws were introduced to protect the consumer from repeated problems and unfindable solutions to existing problems, not unlike the problems we all face with software issues. The automakers responded by increasing quality and service for their products to reduce the number of claims due to the consumer protection involved with this. Where is the consumer protection for computer users and small businesses like myself and others? There is none and we are simply encouraged to "sit back and take it" or "wait for a patch someday". This industry is truely in it's infancy and hopefully someday the computer user/consumer will have some recourse when a solution is unobtainable.
I run a multi-million dollar business building custom swimming pools and spas and my customers demand that the finished product works as sold to them. If there is even a single problem, it must be rectified and solved for consumer satisfaction, so no, it's not as big as MS, but after 24 years in the business I do not have a single customer with a problem that has not been solved. Do you people really think I am "out of line" for being dissatisfied with a company that provided me with companion products that do not work together successfully and that company cant even fix the problem? I don't have the "right" or (forum acceptance) to complain and be dissatisfied when I have searched to no end for a solution to my problem and not only can no one on this site but top level techs at MS not fix the problem?
Yes, I chose to buy MS products and have spent a fortune over the years on it. I am satisfied with many aspects of MS products and feel they are the top of the hill in most areas. I am committed to their products but am amazed at this particular issue. I have an error message that clearly defines the problem but nobody can provide a reason for the error message or a solution to the problem.
Is it wrong of me to expect the MS family of products to work together? I have spent the last 20+ years "waiting for a patch" and trying to figure out many various software issues and frankly I'm sick of it. I want what I have paid for.
Let me clarify that I appreciate all the suggestions and comments from everyone on this site and it is clear that we all do care about this and other problems and this site is a valueable resource for PPC users for sure. There is clearly a difference of opinion about acceptable software behavior when the problem lies outside user error and just keep in mind that my opinion may differ from yours greatly, but at the same time, as a consumer, I do have the right to complain and flame the manufacturer when even they cant fix the problem. So from this point forward I will keep my postings focused on the specific problems I am experiencing and hope that together, we can all find a solution to this widespread problem which, in turn, will benifit the many other visitors on this site seeking the same answer.
So, on that note....
There does not appear to be a Registry editor included in Vista and would there be something in there that I should check that might help with this issue?
Yeah it's unreasonable. WM5 is an older product. You can't take an old MS DOS program and expect it to run on Vista. And they would both be MS programs.
Tell ya what. Expect in one hand and s**t in the other and see which one fills up first.
Grow up. Stuff happens. Quit whining.
WM5 is the latest offering from MS with WM6 not released yet.
Driftless - you said "However...
you expect Vista to run flawlessly from day one? 1 OS, millions of combinations of hardware in millions of PCs. Then the manufacturers of each piece of hardware have to create drivers that not only work with the OS, but other hardware as well..."
I expect that if I have Vista, O2007, WMDC and a PPC with WM5 on it, that it should sync without any problems. It is all a MS software product and does not work together. Do you think that is unreasonable?
No. I agree with you completely 100%!!!!!! Thats why I run Mac. I got tired of MS's bull**** and got rid of them. Every single OS from Microsoft has had major problems of one sort or another, but sadly there is nothing we, as consumers, can do to force Microsoft to change the way they work. Well...there is, and I did it. Stop buying Microsoft products.
I saw a C-NET review of Vista. They bought a new computer with Vista on it and it worked perfectly....yet they upgraded the PC they had (which was more powerful) and it ran like junk! Its Microsofts way of making people buy new products...and yet another reason I left them.
(Although my x51v and xbox have worked perfectly....way to go microsoft!:))
This is the registry editor in vista: http://www.petri.co.il/images/disable_uac_2.gif
It looks the same to me. How are you getting to it? You should be able to go to a command prompt and type regedit.exe.
For what its worth, Vista works a lot better then the
BTW - XP also locks up and BSOD at times. No OS is 100% under every possible software and hardware combo.
I have never, ever, gotten the BSOD or a lock-up with XP.
Of course, I've been alive for the last few years and know better than to buy anything new from MS. Wait for SP1, at least.
Live One Care caused lots of trouble with WMDC, disable it and try again. This helped James Kendrick and Clinton Fitch over the past week.
I don't use One Care and I have no problems with tests on 10 different devices.
Hope that works to at least get you sync'ed.
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MattB - OK, I found it. I had another DOS looking editor that came up using the search tool on the start menu looking for reg edit. Should there be anything in there I should check?
Chris - I have tried to shut off as many items in the One Care as I can but there is no way to simply turn it off. I have not tried uninstalling it yet but have added all the recommended ports, added program exceptions for the WMDC components and still the same results. It seems to be a problem connecting to Outlook 2007 as I can create and sync a document, browse the CF card and install programs, just not sync with Outlook 2007. I continue to receive the "cant connect to the netowrk.." error message from WMDC.
I agree with CodeBubba. I NEVER buy the latest, newly released software (OS's) and other stuff like MS Office 07. I learned a long time ago and saved a lot of money and grief in waiting until the dust settles and thyey work out all the bugs. In EVERY new release of MS OS's and associated programs there has ALWAYS been issues. It's a never ending saga, thus I wait. The good news is I'm running XP with my X51v along with Outlook 2003 and everything works fine.
I used to be one who ran out and bought all the new releases the minute they hit the market, but learned real fast. When all the dust settles and most the bugs are worked out then and only then will I consider the upgrades.
For the original poster SpaGuru? Take a look at all the many posts on here where people are having one problem or another where many don't have the same problem using the same identical software and hardware, yep bugs need to be worked out.
Best of luck , but I'm out of this one. it's turned into a MS bashing thing. Like someone else said nobody forced you to jump the band wagon and go spend all that money the instant everything came out did they? Well I used to until I got smart and now i still have money in the back AND a very enjoyasble working x511v. I hope you get your issues resolved soon and wish you the best of luck
SpaGuru in closing, the simplest way I see for you to end your high level of understandable frustration is to remove Outlook 2007 and put on an earlier version that does work until they or someone find a fix.
Lets see, if you bought a new car and the cruise control didnt work, would you just figure that was a "bug" in the car and accept it? If you went to the dealer for repair and they said they couldnt find a fix for the problem but that the problem existed and they couldnt help you, would you just accept it even though the advertised product didnt work?
But if I go out and buy a new Dodge Truck (RAM 1500) I don't expect the wheels from my old truck (RAM 1500, 2002) to fit. If they do I'm happy. But chances are they won't.
But if I go out and buy a new Dodge Truck (RAM 1500) I don't expect the wheels from my old truck (RAM 1500, 2002) to fit. If they do I'm happy. But chances are they won't.
They will, now if you bought a ford or GM, kiss the rims goodbye.
This Forum and Dell's own Axim Forum seem to list many problems with the Axim X51 and Vista. My Axim came with Outlook 2002. Does anyone know whether this version of Outlook also has problems syncronizing?
If anyone has successfully synced their Axim with Outlook 2002 under Vista Home Premium could they please post simple instructions on how to do it.
I have an Axim running WM2003SE. I recently upgraded my laptop from XP to Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 (including Outlook 2007). I have not had a single problm synching through the synch cradle or dock. I have not gotten it synch over BT, but as long as it is connected via the cable. No problems.
I am extremely satisfied with Vista, Office 2007 and WMDC.
Doug
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