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Old 11-05-07, 10:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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X51v unstable on wake up


I grabbed one of the last X51v's before they were gone to replace my trusty X5. So far I have been a little frustrated. I have the A12 ROM, I did the fake server trick, and I'm not having trouble with that.

However everytime the PPC goes to sleep with a program open, that program crashes as soon as the PPC wakes up (power button pushed, etc.)

I use a lot of reader programs etc, and would like to be able to turn off the thing and thing restart when I have a few minutes. Instead I have to close any open program before putting it to sleep or the program will crash and lose all changes.

Has anyone else seen this?
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Old 11-05-07, 10:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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are the programs that crash running from a storage card?
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Old 11-05-07, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's worth checking the amount of spare memory as well
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Old 11-05-07, 01:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yes, the programs are on storage cards. Although I tried moving the programs to main memory and still had the same problem if the file or data was on the storage card, like large ebooks.

I try to keep everything on cards to free up main memory

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it does that because the SD cards aren't available right away after power on.
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Old 11-05-07, 04:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Does it crash as soon as you try to do something (like push a button) or does it crash immediately?
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Do you have a password set to lock the device after it turns off or after xx minutes of idle time? I had this exact same issue when I had a password set. Since I've turned off the lock feature, I've had no lockups in the last several weeks when turning mine off with a program running.
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Old 11-05-07, 10:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It crashes once you try to do something. Even if I wait a few minutes it still crashes.
I do have a password, I'll try turning that off.
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Old 11-07-07, 12:00 AM   #9 (permalink)
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The reason I said that is because with a lot (most) of the apps on my Axim will automatically close once I try to do anything with them after turning off and on the pda.

This may be because they have a file that is open then then closes itself, I'm not sure. Describe the crash. Do you have to do a reset? Does it give an error message? Or does the application just close?
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Old 11-07-07, 01:59 PM   #10 (permalink)
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by any chance do you have Odyssey enabled? you can tell by the little sailing ship in the toolbar. That will also cause the symptoms you describe.
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for me, the program crashes, but not I don't have to reset the PDA. I too think it is the SD card not being available, but I'm hoping there is a workaround. As a physician I use programs several times an hour for a few minutes, it would be nice to leave them running.

I don't have oddysey running....
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Old 11-17-07, 09:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have had similar problems running a hacked rom that is not to be discussed here. At the same time, I had similar stability issues with A12 and M17. I have done most of my experimenting with my current rom so some of what I say may not apply to you. Some of my observations have been that the PDA is most unstable with sleep/wake issues with programs loaded on storage cards. That has been a general problem regardless of rom due to the lag time at wake up. Some sleep/wake issues went away when I upgraded PocketInformant to 5.0 and WisBar Advanced 3 to the latest (I forget the number). Both of these programs were updated within the last week or two. Sprite was also updated to 6.1 and has fixed wake up issues with it on this version. Even with programs running from Main Memory I will have lockups on wake up intermittently when they are left running and the PDA auto shuts down. I never have a problem if I manually shut down the device. This is especially true of PhatPad and Opera. PhatPad is loaded in main memory and Opera is on the storage card on my PDA. I have problems with neither if I manually shut down the device. I have also noticed that the Password protection is buggy for WM6 in general (not that I am saying that I am running WM6 mind you, just an observation when looking at posts on the Internet about the issue). If you happen to be running a WM6 device with Password protection and you are having wake up issues then a portion of your problems may be with that.

I am a psychotherapist and I use my device for note taking, report writing, billing tracking, journal reading, research development etc. so some of my concerns may be similar to yours. I have delayed the auto shut off time to 15 minutes (registry hack: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\Timeouts]
"BattSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000384) and have made a practice of hitting the off button manually as much as possible. This helps because if I am taking notes during an assessment I rarely go for more than 15 minutes without jotting something down. This has avoided the autoshut off issues I was having that were creating the freeze ups and the resets causing a loss of data when programs were left running.

Programs that must be ran in main memory for reliable operating throughout sleep/wake: Accrobat 2.0, Caligrapher (an all phatware products), SoftMaker products (they will work on storage but intermittently crash with sleep/wake), PocketInformant, all today plug in programs, TotalCommander, MobiPocket, iSilo, WisBar Advanced 3. All these will work on Storage Card but they will cause problems intermittently. When loaded in main memory they are rather stable. I have also noticed that Acrobat works best if the book you are reading is in main memory. It will work if the book is on a storage card but if you go into sleep mode the program tends to crash if the book is on storage. MobiPocket does not have this problem and neither does iSilo (if you do not use iSilo, I recommend you try it with the iSiloX utility for the PC, it is great).

Do not move Volatile memory to storage. Do not move DLL's to storage. I have done both in the past and the PDA will run but you will compromise stability due to the storage card lag time at wake up.

I have had no wakeup issues with the following loaded on storage card: PocketQuicken, Resco Audio Recorder, Opera (I have problems but if it crashes I will not be loosing data), WordNet CE, and other minor programs that I just use for brief tasks and shut down.

I hope some of this has been helpful.

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